This is a war risk insurance flavoured episode, featuring Michael Burle, head of marine at Liberty Specialty Markets, and Neil Roberts, secretary of the Joint War Committee, and head of marine and aviation at the Lloyd's Market Association. We discuss the Red Sea Crisis of Houthi attacks on shipping, plus Somali piracy activity in the Gulf of Aden, and we also talk about re/insuring Ukrainian war risks, on land and in the Black Sea.