In this episode of Messy Jesus Business, host and Sister Julia Walsh has a conversation with Michael Okinczyc-Cruz about the integration of mystical life into public life, and why that's essential to addressing social issues we face today. In addition, this episode also touches on the Archdiocese of Chicago's 50th Anniversary Catholic Campaign for Human Development: what it is, and how you can be a part of the important work of this initiative to create vital systemic change.