J Blaze and I sit down and talk about meeting Michael Jackson, dancing all over the world, how he has yet to beat me in ping pong, and his new music project.

This episode I sit down with Orian Williams with a little help from Alex Beh. Orian Williams is a producer, known for Control (2007), Shadow of the Vampire (2000) and Big Sur (2013). Listen as we talk about how movies get made, Joy Division and jazz.

I join Alex Beh in koreatown where we talk about his latest short film 'Three Women' https://vimeo.com/170187421

We also talk about Woody Allen, and we literally exchange Owen Wilson 'wows' for 2 minutes.