Today’s audio is of Mike speaking at the 2019 Sonlife Discipleship Conference in Portland, Oregon. Sonlife uses a model called “Four Chairs” to help followers of Jesus become disciples who make disciples who make disciples. Each chair represents a different step of engaging with Jesus, based on Jesus’ own example of disciple-making: Come & See, Follow Me, Fish for Men, and Go & Bear Fruit. In this session, Mike shares about how we can help those around us at any stage in their faith journey deal with the tough question of “Where is God in the middle of this mess?” For more information on the Four Chairs model, check out www.sonlife.com.