Heyy. OK so I’m just going to get ahead of the curve (curb?) — ahead of the curve and say that over the course of this episode I at one point say Miley is in my top five musical artists of all time when what I actually meant to say was I think she’s in my top five pop vocalists. So. I went back to try and edit it and I couldn’t find it. I’m joined today by my old college bestie Carol Ullman, who is also an incredible filmmaker, playwright, director, writer, and legend. We recorded this episode outdoors in the sunny streets of Los Angeles, and you can barely tell! Miley Miley Miley Cyrus. Can’t get enough of that one!

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