Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Ali Macofsky! Ali and Caleb talk their favorite relationships, religious upbringings, sweet treats, symbols, and much more! 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Howdy! This week we welcome back to the show the hilarious Carly Kane! Carly and Caleb talk the importance of Applebees, tattoo woes, working as an assistant, ghosts, and much more! 

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About Headgum: 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Gavin Matts! Gavin and Caleb talk the joys and perils of international travel, Canadian Football, sellouts, knives, and much more! 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week’s guest is the talented Claud! Claud and Caleb talk coming out of the closet, the only places to eat in Syracuse, typing speed, rugs, and much more! 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week’s guest is the iconic Ziwe! Ziwe and Caleb talk dating in New York City, Colbert getting cancelled, a special encounter with the TSA, comments, and much more! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Ziwe and other bonus content! https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Ego Nwodim! Ego and Caleb talk being the child of immigrants, the state of how people interact with their favorite entertainers, how a simple word can be the hottest thing in the world, SNL, and much more! 

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About Headgum: 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Buckle up, mama. This week’s guest is the wickedly talented Josh Sharp! Josh and Caleb talk his new Off-Broadway show, a strange southern dancing custom involving members of your family, the perfect wedding, one hit wonders, and so much more! 

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Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week’s guest is the incredible Stuart Hinds! Stuart and Caleb talk the history of queer people in the midwest, generational differences in dating, Stuart not having a phone of any kind, and much more! 

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Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week brings us the return of the one and only woman who is responsible for the existence of this show, Caleb’s mom Kellie Hearon! Kellie and Caleb do a deep dive on their life together, raising children as a young parent, her newfound fame, her time working in a women’s prison, Buffalo Wild Wings, and more! 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week’s guests are the hilarious Charlie Bardey and Natalie Rotter-Laitman! Charlie, Natalie, and Caleb talk waking up early, Americans watching soccer, Mind Palace’s, the pronunciation of big words, and much more! 

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Follow Charlie! @chunkbardey

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Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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