Welcome! This week’s guest is the iconic Ziwe! Ziwe and Caleb talk dating in New York City, Colbert getting cancelled, a special encounter with the TSA, comments, and much more! 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Ego Nwodim! Ego and Caleb talk being the child of immigrants, the state of how people interact with their favorite entertainers, how a simple word can be the hottest thing in the world, SNL, and much more! 

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Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Buckle up, mama. This week’s guest is the wickedly talented Josh Sharp! Josh and Caleb talk his new Off-Broadway show, a strange southern dancing custom involving members of your family, the perfect wedding, one hit wonders, and so much more! 

Get tickets to Josh Sharp Ta-Da! https://www.joshsharptada.com/ 

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the incredible Stuart Hinds! Stuart and Caleb talk the history of queer people in the midwest, generational differences in dating, Stuart not having a phone of any kind, and much more! 

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Follow the show! @sooootruepod 

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Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week brings us the return of the one and only woman who is responsible for the existence of this show, Caleb’s mom Kellie Hearon! Kellie and Caleb do a deep dive on their life together, raising children as a young parent, her newfound fame, her time working in a women’s prison, Buffalo Wild Wings, and more! 

Join our Patreon for an exclusive post-episode chat with Kellie and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  

Follow Kellie! @hearon_kellie

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guests are the hilarious Charlie Bardey and Natalie Rotter-Laitman! Charlie, Natalie, and Caleb talk waking up early, Americans watching soccer, Mind Palace’s, the pronunciation of big words, and much more! 

Join our Patreon for an exclusive post-episode chat with Charlie and Natalie and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the talented Lizzy McAlpine! Lizzy and Caleb talk Lizzy’s Broadway debut in Floyd Collins, writing bad songs as a teen, the rigors of touring, her songwriting process, dads, and much more! 

Join our Patreon for an exclusive post-episode chat with Lizzy and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  

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Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Marie Faustin! Marie and Caleb talk Sinners, the height of men, the concept of renderings, Denzel Washington, and much more! 

Join our Patreon for an exclusive post-episode chat with Marie and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  

Follow Marie! @reeezy 

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Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

» FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum  

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the supremely talented Krysta Rodriguez! Krysta and Caleb talk about the beast that is a weekly Broadway schedule, her time in iconic musicals like Spring Awakening, a TV show they were both in that never made it to air, Francis Ford Coppola, and much more! 

Join our Patreon for an exclusive post-episode chat with Krysta and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  

Follow Krysta! @krysta_rod 

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Start listening and discover what’s beyond the edge of your seat when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at https://www.Audible.com/SOTRUE.

About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Hannah Berner! Hannah and Caleb talk growing up in Brooklyn, past lives, the perils of getting a driver's license, a situation involving the old Pope, motherhood, and much more!  

Join our Patreon for an exclusive post-episode chat with Hannah and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  

Follow Hannah! @hannahberner

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There’s no replacement for human connection. Better with people. Better with Alma. Visit www.helloalma.com/SOTRUE to get started and schedule a free consultation today. 

About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

» FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum  

» FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ 

» FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum 

So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.