Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Rosebud Baker! Rosebud and Caleb talk high school cheerleading, war criminals, raising a child with a fellow comedian, TV dads, and much more! 

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

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Welcome! This week’s guest is the amazing Denise Brown! Denise and Caleb talk growing up in the 70s, age-gap friendships, the KC Tenants union, pronouns, and much more! 

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the talented and hilarious Rachel Sennott! Rachel and Caleb talk car accidents, a never before seen moment from early in her acting career, vocabulary words, and her new show I Love LA coming to HBO MAX on November 2nd! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Rachel and other bonus content!  https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

Follow Rachel! @treaclychild 

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Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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There’s no replacement for human connection. Better with people. Better with Alma. Visit helloalma.com/SOTRUE to get started and schedule a free consultation today. 

About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Caitie Delaney! Caitie and Caleb talk unpaid internships, a harrowing experience they shared in London, their thoughts on AI, delivery robots, and much more! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Caitie and other bonus content!  https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

Follow Caitie! @caitiedelaney

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Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious David Gborie! David and Caleb talk hairless cats, Denver, an encounter with a man holding a falcon, the Taylor Swift effect on football, bandanas, and much more! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with David and other bonus content!  https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

Follow David! @coolguyjokes87

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Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Ali Macofsky! Ali and Caleb talk their favorite relationships, religious upbringings, sweet treats, symbols, and much more! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Ali and other bonus content! https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

Follow Ali! @notalimac 

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Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Howdy! This week we welcome back to the show the hilarious Carly Kane! Carly and Caleb talk the importance of Applebees, tattoo woes, working as an assistant, ghosts, and much more! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Carly and other bonus content!  https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

Follow Carly! @icarlykane

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Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

» FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum  

» FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ 

» FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum 

So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Gavin Matts! Gavin and Caleb talk the joys and perils of international travel, Canadian Football, sellouts, knives, and much more! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Gavin and other bonus content!  https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

Follow Gavin! @gavinmatts

Follow the show! @sooootruepod 

Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings 

Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

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» FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ 

» FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum 

So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the talented Claud! Claud and Caleb talk coming out of the closet, the only places to eat in Syracuse, typing speed, rugs, and much more! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Claud and other bonus content!  https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

Follow Claud! @claud.mp3 

Follow the show! @sooootruepod 

Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings 

Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

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About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

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» FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum 

So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome! This week’s guest is the iconic Ziwe! Ziwe and Caleb talk dating in New York City, Colbert getting cancelled, a special encounter with the TSA, comments, and much more! 

Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Ziwe and other bonus content! https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ 

Follow Ziwe! @ziwe 

Follow the show! @sooootruepod 

Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings 

Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

Go to Quince.com/sotrue for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns

Head to https://www.squarespace.com/SOTRUE to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code SOTRUE. 

About Headgum: 

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. 

» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  

» FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum  

» FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ 

» FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum 

So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.