Mind, Body, and Soil

This episode unpacks the relationships between all things, taking a systems view of mind, body, and soil. Bobby Gill is the Director of Development and Communications at the Savory Institute but he is also on a similar quest to uncover the way life is connected on a multitude of different levels. This is a deep dive into ecology, humanity’s relationship with nature over time, and finding ecological literacy in an age of ecological illiteracy. Bobby and Kate unpack the idea of systems thinking through the lens of the textbook ‘Systems View of Life’. Technology, psychedelics, ruminants, nutrient cycling, parenting are all part and parcel of this wide ranging conversation. We also explore the way that meat has been portrayed in media and dive into some of Bobby’s work with the Savory Institute. This is a conversation that is truly not to be missed.

We also talk about:

• Holistic planning
• Ruminants as ecosystem engineers
• Embodying the full expression of life and health
• & so much more!
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Resources:

Instagram:@b0bby.gill

Website: Savory Institute

Bobby’s TEDx Talk 

Books:

• The Systems View of Life by Fritjof Capra and Pierre Luigi Luisi
• Nourishment by Fred Provenza
• The Secret Drugs of Buddhism by Mike Crowley
• The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe
• How to Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan
• The Awakened Brain by Dr. Lisa Miller
• The Immortality Key by Brian C. Muraresku
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Other Mentions:

• Daisyworld Resources: Lovelock and Gaia, Model of Daisyworld
• Water Cycles with Walter Jehne 
• All of earth Time as a 24 hour clock
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Carrie Bennett is unveiling the interconnectedness between us and our environment. Exploring health and connection through the lens of quantum biology, Carrie lays the ground work for understanding the electric nature of our bodies and how they interact with our environment to create energy. This podcast explores and uncovers the deep interconnectedness of mind, body, and soil that we’re always exploring and dives even deeper with discussions around exclusion zone water, EMFs, circadian biology, and more. She ties everything back to our connection with nature through light, ground, and water. Not only does Carrie elegantly deliver the foundational knowledge we need to understand these concepts but she provides an abundance of information on resources for quantum healing, many of them free and right outside your door.  This is a powerhouse of a podcast that spans both the technical and the actionable in an introduction to quantum biology.

We also talk about:

• The surprising nature of collagen
• Light as a nutrient
• Seasonal living in colder climates
• & so much more!
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Resources:

Instagram:@carriebwellness

Website: https://www.carriebwellness.com

YouTube Channel

Discounts:

15% off Carrie’s ‘Connect to the Light’ Course with code ‘KATE15’

Further Reading:

Books:

• The Fourth Phase of Water: Beyond Solid, Liquid, and Vapor by Gerald Pollack
• Electric Body, Electric Health by Eileen McCusick
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Studies:

• Electromagnetic fields act via activation of voltage-gated calcium channels to produce beneficial or adverse effects by Martin Pall
• The effects of grounding (earthing) on inflammation, the immune response, wound healing, and prevention and treatment of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune diseases  by James Oschman et al.
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Gadgets and Do-Dads:

• Blue Light Blockers  (15% off using Carriebwellness)
• Dive into EMF Meters 
• Timer for WiFi
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We follow the journey of a log from forest to home with Katrina Amaral of Timberdoodle Farm. Have you ever wondered where the wood beneath your feet, in your walls, and your furniture comes from? As Katrina puts it “pretty much wherever you are, you’re within 5 feet of a wood product.” Katrina brings her lens of conservation work to her and her husband’s sawmill in New Hampshire. Drawing similarities between a local and more globalized food system, Katrina guides us through a look at what a local and global lumber trade looks like. As wood prices skyrocket, it’s a good time to get curious about what the lumber market is all about and how to tap into your local one. Covered is everything from forest stewardship, urban wood removal, utilizing local species over trendy species of wood, and bringing architects and designers into the conversation. If you’ve ever wanted to better connect with wood and the forest - this is the podcast!

We also talk about:

• Finding financial sustainability in the sawmill industry
• Ground nesting birds
• & so much more!
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Resources:

Instagram:@timberdoodlefarm 

Website: timberdoodlesawmill.com

Find a Sawmill: Urban Wood Network, Wood-Mizer Pro Sawyer Network, iDry Kiln Network,

Further Reading:

Timberdoodle Farm in Fast Company

The Overstory by Richard Powers

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Beth Lipton isn’t just a food writer, recipe developer, and advocate for regenerative agriculture - she is also one of the authors of new cookbook ‘Carnivore-ish’. Beth brings her unique perspective to this podcast. Over the years she has had a unique opportunity to see food journalism’s meteoric rise alongside the rise of the conversation around health. She works to bring both conversations to her work. A turn with an elimination diet led Beth to meat a number of years ago and she’s been reaping the benefits of being carnivore-ish since then. We talk about the benefit of an animal-based diet for both men and women, but talk especially about breaking societal mores around women’s meat consumption. This discussion also covers the maligning of meat in mainstream media and what, if anything, we can do about it. Beth brings her expertise in how to make getting in the kitchen a breeze and her tips make cooking feel easy and accessible. This is a conversation for all the meat cookers out there - experienced and novice alike - and those interested in how we continue the conversation about meat in arenas big and small.

We also talk about:

• The recipe development process
• Cooking for kids
• & so much more!
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Resources:

Instagram:@cookiepie0402

Website: bethlipton.com

Further Reading:

The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz

The Case Against Sugar by Gary Taubes

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Erin Pata is one of those people whose journey makes you deeply consider your own life’s journey. Her journey starts in Ohio and winds through ranching and dry farming in the Jalama Valley in California, many National Parks, motherhood, graphic design, and leads her to where she stands now: at the precipice of attempting the summit of Mt. Rainier. We talk about why we chase our dreams - whether they’re mountains, art, or just a life guided by wanderlust. Our conversation leads us to look at life through the lens of motherhood and the lessons we impart to our children that we could probably stand to learn ourselves. Throughout the conversation, we hit on values that guide her life - things like freedom, bravery, curiosity, and creativity. We dive into her passion for tracking megafauna and how it led her to buy a piece of property where she’s building a cabin in Montana. Through all the time she’s spent in nature, we talk about how nature has the ability to bring a sense of peace and calm to highly sensitive people, and we have a detailed conversation about both of our experiences as HSP’s. This is a rollicking conversation and Erin’s wisdom and zest for life is contagious.

We also talk about:

• Erin’s work as a freelance graphic designer
• Problem solving
• Learning to mountaineer
• & so much more!
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Resources:

Instagram: @butterbeanstudios

Website: butterbeanstudios.com

Further Reading:

Night of the Grizzlies by Jack Olsen

The Highly Sensitive Person by Elaine Aron 

Other Mentions:

Identifying Your Values with Africa Brooke

Daniel Curry’s work

The Tooth and Claw Podcast

Cover Photo by Trever Stolte

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In this episode, Kate takes a step outside of her relationship with her husband and really gets curious about what makes the man she married tick. This discussion is both rollicking and intimate. Josh Curtiss has been collecting skills over the last two decades - as a master carpenter, butcher, farmer, welder, entrepreneur, and so much more. We talk about how he arrived at the decision to collect skills and how he tended to and cultivated them over the years. Not just that, but we talk about play and joy as skills that we must practice. As Josh says “play is the embodiment of practicing joy.” Josh had a lot to say about what it means to play and how we can create a sense of play in everyday life. We dive into the food system, talking intimately about what it means to invest in our food and in our health. We parse out the difference between lifespan and healthspan and what keeps us accountable in our journeys toward health, and we talk about running businesses together over the last decade and how we approach farming and entrepreneurship as a couple. Our intimate conversation leads us in and out of the intricacies of growing and evolving together. And throughout the conversation, is a thread of joy, and what it means to cultivate it. This conversation is as surprising and gentle as it is intimate.

We also talk about:

• Raising animals
• Finding presence and focus
• Dangerous jobs
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Resources:

Instagram: @thejoshofalltrades

Groundworkcollective.com

westerndaughters.com

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“You are not a drop in the ocean; you are the entire ocean in a drop.” - Rumi.

Salt is not just a seasoning on your table - it is the currency of cells, the crystal of life. This podcast unfolds in two parts. At the beginning is a mini-dive into salt with Kate. Why does salt matter so much? From history, to our biology, salt has an important place at the table. In the second part, an interview with Nancy Bruns of JQ Dickinson Salt-Works in West Virginia. Nancy shares the story of her 7th generation salt operation in the Kanawha valley in Appalachia where they make salt by hand using the power of the sun and the briny waters of an ancient underground ocean. We explore the process of making salt and how it connects us to the land, to our bodies, and to history.

• The salt-making process
• The importance of trace minerals
• The difference between JQD salt and sea salt
• A brief history of salt
• & so much more
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Resources:

Instagram: @jqdsalt 

https://www.jqdsalt.com

Further Reading:

• Salt: A World History by Mark Kurlansky
• The Salt Fix by James DiNicolantonio
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Chelsea Connor is one of those people who exudes the kind of magic that leads you back home to yourself. Combining science, research, and an innate understanding of the nervous system, our conversation is a journey about the art of slowing down, learning to listen to our bodies, and beginning to heal our nervous systems. We deep dive into the nervous system, exploring physiology alongside a more intuitive approach to how we might begin to heal starting with looking to our childhood passions as a gateway to that healing journey. We don’t leave the conversation there, though, and we meander through topics like moving from the city to a rural environment and all that entails, finding who you are without society’s perceptions, the art of slowing down, understanding nervous systems through the lens of our relationship with our parents (and horses!), and so much more. Chelsea is not just a wealth of information but feels like a bright light in the health space, bringing a sense of joy and play to her work and a felt sense of magic to the world of our nervous systems. This conversation is a fun one!

We Also Talk About

• Our experiences as first-time horse owners
• Cacao and tapping into ritual
• Nourishment for body and mind
• EMFs and grounding
• Breathwork
• Attunement
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Resources:

Instagram: @houseofnourishment

kismetcacao.com

Further Reading:

• Call of the Wild by Kimberly Ann Johnson
• Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D.
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Lissa Monberg is a fifth generation farmer in Washington’s Olympic Peninsula, where she is steward to Hama Hama Oysters and Hama Hama Logging. We talk about natural resource management and the beautiful relationship between agriculture and aquaculture. Hama Hama celebrates their centennial this year, and we explore the ways in which a business changes over a century, going from resource extraction to resource sustainability to restorative stewardship. We explore plenty about the oysters Hama Hama is known for and a little about the clams we should be eating more of. We talk about cycles large and small as Lissa guides us through the seasons of a multi-generational business and the tidal cycles of the oyster business.

This podcast illuminates aquaculture and the way an oyster so perfectly reflects its ecosystem back to us through flavor but it is also the story of how time changes a place and the people who call it home.

GroundWork10 will get you a 10% discount on an order from Hama Hama through 5/31/22! We highly recommend that you have some oysters, clams, and mussels shipped right to your doorstep.

We Also Talk About

• Clams clams clams!
• The meditation we find in work
• Diversified farms
• Stewardship and family businesses
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Resources:

Instagram: @hamahamaoysters

Hamahamaoysters.com

How to shuck straight from Hama Hama

Further Reading:

The Living Shore by Rowan Jacobsen 

A Geography of Oysters by Rowan Jacobsen 

The Oysters of Locmariaquer by Eleanor Clark

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