Michael has hosted 162 episodes of his Brain Shaman podcast at https://www.brainshaman.com, which he describes as a philosophical and scientific journey towards better brain health. "A podcast that teaches you how to reconnect with your primordial nature, reprogram your brain, regain your freedom, and redirect your life." 

This sounded much like what I'm doing, so he hosted me for another of his podcast episodes and here I have hosted him on mine. The difference is that the host is supposed to do less talking and the guest more.

I asked him about his background (Mormon), his interests (philosophy), and his profession (teaching English in Japan). These seemed disconnected to me, so I worked to pry more out of him.

Despite our different backgrounds we have similar interests and aims. It is curious to compare these two pictures of ourselves and to notice how similar they are: same eyes, same organic background and asymmetrical smiles.

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