There was a time if you said meditation it conjured up hippies, communes and a certain amount of stereo-typing. But thanks to our guest today, Jon Kabat Zinn, mindfulness has become mainstream in schools and hospitals and is recognized for its impact on mind and body. Also joining us is one of the prime movers in the field of self-compassion, Kristin Neff. We hear about their life’s work and what the potential is for these two methods to help reduce stress and have a happier life. And we will also talk about its potential to change the world.