We coming in hot with a fresh Premodcast drop! In between vacations we did an hour record to talk about how the meta is looking these days as well as a...let's say a look at the wild June monthly finals won by Rich Shay over Jens Jaeger on Turtle Splash. Then Mike and Andrew talk with Ken Meyer Jr. Apologies again for timeliness on this one, we recorded it back in early May but had some technical difficulties and couldn't get it out before Lobstercon. Still a great interview with a classic Magic artist!