In which Cal Gal in West Virginia joins the Dude to talk about transitioning out of parish ministry, working for the ACLU, and how organizing and pastoring go together.

See the sermon Jenny mentioned here.

Learn more about West Virginia Can't Wait here: https://wvcantwait.com/

Learn more about Jenny's work at https://wvfaith.org/

And see Justice and Jubilee's upcoming work on their YouTube channel.

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