In this episode of the Ministry Rhythms Podcast, the team welcomes new Church Renewal Strategist Nick Lingle to unpack what true church renewal looks like—moving beyond strategy and structure to rekindle a deep, spiritual love for Jesus at the heart of congregational life. With insights from Andy Davis and practical reflections, the conversation centers on restoring spiritual health through biblical means.
Resources Mentioned:
Gospel Way Catechism – Thomas West & Trevin Wax
Falling in Love with Jesus – David Jackson (Free via NAMB)
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Episode Timeline & Key Moments:
[00:00 – 01:00] Welcome & Updates
Hosts return after a hiatus
Introduction of new staff: Nick Lingle, Church Renewal Strategist (Westwood Pastor, started June 1)
[01:00 – 02:00] Why Church Renewal Matters
80% of SBC churches (including 151 locally) need some degree of renewal
Renewal can be slight or extensive
[02:00 – 03:30] Defining Church Renewal
“The effort to restore by biblical means, a once healthy church from a present level of disease to a state of spiritual health as defined by the Word of God.”
Focus: Both means (biblical methods) and target (spiritual health)
[03:30 – 05:00] Renewal vs. Church Planting
Difference between building from scratch and restoring something broken
Renewal requires reintroducing Scripture-based methods into stalled structures
[05:00 – 07:30] The Heart of the Church
Warning signs of needing renewal:
Activity without love (Revelation letters, especially Ephesus)
Doctrinal correctness but relational coldness
Key question: "Has your love for God grown?"
[07:30 – 09:30] Role of Worship & Affections
Worship gatherings should magnify the risen Christ
It’s not just about saying “good sermon,” but being moved by Jesus
Leaders must evaluate and nurture affections, not just actions
[09:30 – 12:00] Discipleship & Love for Jesus
Renewal is hindered by deficient discipleship
Gospel Way Catechism by Thomas West & Trevin Wax
Rhythms: Worship, Scripture, daily spiritual discipline
It's not about Sunday alone, but continual spiritual rhythms
[12:00 – 14:30] What Crowds Out Spiritual Renewal
Concerns like finances, facilities, and survival often take center stage
Renewal must begin with spiritual vitality, not just strategic change
[14:30 – 16:30] The Pastor’s Heart
Healthy churches begin with healthy pastors
Leaders must maintain their own vibrant walk with Christ
Organizational skill ≠ Spiritual leadership
[16:30 – 18:30] Being With Jesus
Phrase from Tim Wheat (NAMB): “Be with Jesus”
Pastors must be spiritually present—not just programmatically active
Prioritizing time with Christ fuels authentic ministry
[18:30 – 20:30] Lessons from a Child
Nick shares a conversation with his 8-year-old daughter:
“I love Jesus, I think about him, and I want to please him.”
A simple model for personal spiritual health
[20:30 – 22:00] Final Thoughts & Resources
Falling in Love with Jesus by David Jackson (NAMB – free resource)
Structural changes are helpful but secondary
True renewal is spiritual—it begins with the heart