Mission Lab

We do something different: we cross-post an interview that Shawn was on the receiving end of a while back on a podcast called Disruptive Adventism. Though much of the content will probably sound like much of what we've shared on this podcast in the past, having someone else interview Shawn elicited a slightly different take than what we've heard before. Listen in as Jose Briones grills Shawn on what it means to be missional.

Shawn has a conversation with his friend and one-time parishioner Mike Brown to discuss his journey out of drug-dealing and into faith, and the insidious nature of shame-based discipleship. They talk about the power of going through the 12 steps, and how remembering our identity in Christ is crucial for the life of faith.

Shawn looks back at ten years of ministering in Bangor, five years of being on mission, and 100 episodes of the podcast, and shares his favorite and most meaningful missional memories.

A few months ago when Shawn was wrestling with how to take his church to the next level and develop leaders, he suddenly realized he had a great resource within his own congregation: a young, energetic, successful entrepreneur who has started multiple businesses. So he chats with friend and church member Courtney Wetzel, who launched into business ownership at age 23, to talk about how to lead with a compelling mission and how to develop leaders.

Shawn sits down with his good friend, Pastor Nathan Stearman, to talk about Nathan's journey from guilt-driven discipleship to gospel-centered discipleship. Nathan shares his story - about his upbringing, about stepping into the glorious light of the gospel, and about how the gospel has changed the way he treats his dog.

Have you ever thought about the possibility that one of your primary callings in life is to serve as the chaplain of your neighborhood? What would that look like and mean? Shawn shares some stories and reflections on this critical part of mission and life.

Combining a Greek and Latin word, Shawn reflects on what we are really inviting people into when we share with them the story of Jesus. In short, we're not inviting them into an idea or a theology or into propositional truth; we're inviting them into the community of God, in all its embodied and messy beauty. 

Shawn talks about what he does for his personal prayer and Scripture time. He makes sure to point out that he is not prescribing anything, but simply talking about what his journey has looked like, while noting that having an active and vibrant connection to Christ is critical for discipleship.

How should the church relate to the LGBT community? For some, the answer may be obvious. But Shawn has a conversation with his friend Elijah, who identifies as a gay Christian, and they talk about how he has faced this question, and what it's like to grow up always feeling different. They talk about how the church has done when it comes to the LGBT community, and what it can do better. This is a conversation that has been long overdue, but obviously requires great sensitivity and care.

Note: the views expressed in this episode are solely the views of the Shawn and Elijah and do not necessarily speak for the Seventh-day Adventist Church as a whole.

Shawn has a conversation with his friend David Hamstra, who is a pastor in Edmonton, Alberta, and a ThD student at Andrews University. They talk about living in and ministering to a secular age, how to reach people in such a context, what it means to focus on immanent versus transcendent goods, and what this means for various aspects of life, including sexuality.