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In what was billed as a rowdy arguement, we enjoy perhaps the most civilised conversation we've ever had on the podcast. 4 previous guests/ listeners have formed two teams: Team Killer and Team Filler. TK are defending the honour of Sum 41 and their 2001 debut All Killer No Filler whilst TF are attempting to explain why that title is incorrect both literally and figuretively.

We get the American perspective from Allon off New Jersey punkers Hassle, we get the voice of youth and an in depth music theory insight from Conor off SKIV, the view from t'grim North off Mickey Waddington and we get the sage wisdom of age from Liam Ashcroft (Mugsmasher, Crocodile God) and his Mum.