Jason England is one of magic's leading experts on all things Erdnase. Recognized as an authority on casino gambling, specifically, cheating with cards. He has some of magic's most dangerous hands. Influenced by Steve Forte, Richard Turner, Dai Vernon, and Darwin Ortiz, Jason is an amazing resource. This interview was recorded just over eighteen months ago, I had thought that this interview had been lost in a hard drive crash. I'm thrulled to have been able to breathe new life into it and share it with you today.