Adam speaks to the leading expert on Ego State Therapy and founder of Resource Therapy Professor Gordon Emmerson. 

They discuss why the model of different parts of the unconscious is useful and why these parts are often in conflict. Gordon explains the difference between Ego State Therapy and Resource Therapy and how quickly change can take place. 

Gordon shares that the person and resource state he would most want to adopt is Nelson Mandela's ability to turn hate and injustice into something positive.