40 minutes deep talk. No guest, just us, basically talking about BUMN 101. We discussed about all the major reasons on why you should choose BUMN as your career, tackling all BUMN's misperceptions, and how do we respond to the current horrendous BUMN news. 

PS: If you want some "Pergundikan" stories, you won't find it here.

Cheers, @haroldstefan and @dzakok.