Sam shares how growing up around marital conflict shaped her early distrust of marriage, and how mentorship later modeled a different way. Through her Amway network marketing community, she encountered couples who embodied partnership, faith, and stability in a way she hadn’t seen before. What began as business mentorship slowly became spiritual reawakening.

She describes being drawn back to God not through pressure, but through a “come as you are” faith. Non-denominational services, healthy marriage models, and curiosity over certainty reshaped how she understood belonging.

This conversation moves gently through joy and grief — through depression, anxiety, panic attacks, and a recent miscarriage that became a profound moment of surrender. Sam speaks honestly about choosing joy as a discipline, not a personality trait, and how faith deepened in the middle of uncertainty.

Together, they explore what it means to be called to both motherhood and money. To reject the narrative that Christian women must choose between presence and provision. To believe that God is not threatened by ambition when it’s anchored in alignment.

They talk about identity beyond motherhood, mental load, dating standards, denominations, faith conversations with kids, and the tension between chaos and clarity when you’re building something new.

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Sam also shares how she supports moms in business through structured planning systems, intentional income strategy, her “money-making moves” framework, and tools designed to reduce overwhelm and increase clarity.

If you’ve ever felt torn between presence and provision…

This episode is for you.

You don’t have to become someone else to be used by God.

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Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are late, the lights are low, and nothing is too sacred to say out loud.

In this deeply personal episode, McKenzie and Rebecca explore what it looks like to walk a middle path: holding spiritual curiosity while remaining rooted in Scripture, anchored in Jesus, and guided by discernment.

They talk about “energy” and nervous system regulation not as replacements for faith, but as part of God’s design or tools that can be reclaimed rather than rejected.

This episode also marks the beginning of McKenzie’s “Connection Year,” a season dedicated to reconnecting with self, body, community, and God. She shares how something as simple as baking sourdough became sacred stillness, revealing that what she once called “rest” through reality TV was often just distraction.

Through an exercise tracing her hands, she identifies what she’s been holding that God never asked her to carry and the emotional weight she’s slowly learning to release.

From there, the conversation turns inward to nervous system regulation, health struggles with Hashimoto’s and PCOS, and the inherited beliefs that shaped her relationship with hustle, scarcity, and safety.

This conversation moves gently but honestly through trauma, grace, accountability, and what it means to heal without rewriting the truth.

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If you’ve ever felt torn between honoring your parents and honoring your healing…

This episode is for you.

Healing doesn’t always look dramatic. Sometimes it looks like sourdough, surrender, and letting go.

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Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.

In this beautifully layered conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with multimedia abstract artist and writer Heather Eck, an intuitive painter and color healing practitioner who creates spirit portraits and experiences synesthesia, seeing and sensing color in people’s energy and emotions.

Heather shares her journey from two decades in corporate HR to stepping fully into her creative calling after burnout became an invitation back to God. What began as exhaustion turned into surrender. And surrender led her back to the creativity she once held as a child.

Raised Methodist but always spiritually curious, Heather opens up about how deep Bible study since 2020 reshaped her understanding of intuition, chakras, numerology, and energy. Rather than separating these tools from Christianity, she describes returning to God as the Source; the One who created color, vibration, symbolism, and meaning in the first place.

This episode isn’t about abandoning Scripture. It’s about wrestling with it, studying it deeply, and asking how ancient Hebrew language, pictographs, and symbolism reveal a layered, living faith.

Together, they explore what discernment looks like in spiritually complex spaces, how to recognize “low-level” or draining energy, and why surrender often shows up through synchronicities, repeated numbers, and unexpected confirmations.

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If you’ve ever felt spiritually curious but unsure where curiosity meets conviction, this episode makes space for the in-between. It honors questions without demanding certainty. It invites discernment without fear.

This conversation is for those who love Scripture and also sense that God’s creativity may be wider than we were taught.

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Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are real and the walls come down.

In this intimate, heart-to-heart episode, Rebecca reflects on a year marked by unraveling, healing, and the slow, sacred work of becoming. What began as a search for clarity turned into an invitation to slow down, listen deeper, and let God meet her beneath the noise.

This episode weaves together reflections on choosing a word for the year, navigating spiritual warfare and anxiety, and learning how to create space for God’s voice in a world that never stops talking. Through honest conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca open up about shedding old identities, regulating their nervous systems, and discovering that spiritual maturity isn’t about perfection, but presence.

It’s a conversation about learning to sit still long enough to hear God, brave enough to face fear, and tender enough to allow healing to unfold in its own time.

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If you’re in a season of reflection, healing, or quiet reorientation, this episode feels like a soft landing. A reminder that growth doesn’t always shout; sometimes it whispers.

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This episode is an invitation to pause, breathe, and trust that God is still working, even when the progress feels quiet.

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Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.

In this thoughtful and deeply respectful conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Mattie Mae Motl, a PhD candidate at the University of St. Andrews whose work focuses on gender and sexuality in the New Testament. Mattie Mae brings both scholarly insight and personal vulnerability as she shares her journey from growing up Southern Baptist to walking through faith deconstruction alongside her atheist husband.

This episode invites listeners into a nuanced conversation about biblical literacy, historical and cultural context, and why understanding how Scripture was written matters just as much as what it says. Mattie Mae gently challenges surface-level interpretations, emphasizing the role of love, inclusion, and humility when engaging with difficult or debated texts.

Rather than offering easy answers, this conversation makes space for curiosity, questions, and compassion. Together, they explore how faith can evolve, how parenting shapes our spiritual lens, and how God’s presence remains even in seasons of deconstruction and reimagining belief.

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This episode is for anyone who has wrestled with Scripture, felt tension between belief and lived experience, or longed for conversations that honor both faith and complexity.

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01:06 – Meeting Mattie Mae and her journey into theology

If you’ve ever wondered how faith, scholarship, and real life can coexist, this episode offers a grounded reminder that God is not afraid of our questions and often meets us right in the middle of them.

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Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits.

In this intimate late-night episode, McKenzie reflects on a year marked by spiritual warfare, internal tension, and the slow unraveling of control. What began as a pursuit of abundance and forward momentum became an unexpected invitation to surrender, not just plans and expectations, but fear, ego, and old survival patterns that no longer served her.

Through honest storytelling, she opens up about the spiritual and emotional battles of 2025, including business strain, personal conflict, and the weight of trying to carry everything alone. This conversation explores what it looks like to release control to God, confront deeply rooted fears, and allow healing to happen at a soul level.

A pivotal encounter with a spirit portrait artist becomes a moment of clarity and confirmation, illuminating the unseen spiritual work happening beneath the surface and affirming a connection to God that transcends language and logic. The episode closes with a vision for a coming Connection Year, a season devoted to deeper alignment with self, community, and God.

This is a conversation about surrender as strength, faith as anchoring, and the quiet power of letting God lead when the path feels uncertain.

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If you find yourself in a season of tension, pruning, surrender, or spiritual questioning, this episode offers a reminder that God often does His deepest work when we finally stop trying to control the outcome.

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Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.

In this deeply tender episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with their friend Dare, who bravely opens her heart to share her journey through infertility, pregnancy loss, and the long road toward surrendering her plans to God. With honesty and humility, Dare walks us through the ache of miscarriage, the emotional toll of IVF, the joy of unexpected pregnancy, and the spiritual awakening that unfolded in the middle of it all.

This conversation is raw, hopeful, and full of the quiet miracles that happen when we loosen our grip and let God write the story. Together, they explore what it looks like to hold grief and gratitude at the same time, to navigate career and motherhood with an open hand, and to trust God even when the path feels impossible to understand.

If you have ever walked through questions, waiting seasons, or the kind of heartbreak that changes you, Dares story will remind you that God is present in every chapter, even the ones that hurt the most.

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Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits.

In this late-night heart-to-heart, McKenzie and Rebecca peel back the curtain on the real, unfiltered journey of building a business while holding a family, a calling, and a spiritual life all at once. Together, they explore the quiet tension between growth and overwhelm, purpose and pressure, identity and surrender.

Through honest storytelling, McKenzie shares what it feels like to steward a business through busy seasons, navigate imposter syndrome, build a team from the ground up, and keep faith at the center when everything feels loud. This episode dives into spiritual alignment, discerning God’s voice in the chaos, and the sacred work of returning to peace when fear tries to take the lead.

She also opens up about spiritual trauma, cord-cutting practices, and what it means to release what drains you so you can fully step into what God is calling you to do. It’s vulnerable, grounding, and full of reminders that you don’t have to hold it all alone; God never asked you to.

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If you’ve ever felt stretched thin between your calling and your capacity, this episode will feel like a deep breath and a gentle reminder that God is in the details of your becoming.

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Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits.

In this intimate late-night episode, McKenzie and Rebecca dive into the tender, transformative journey of rediscovering faith, letting go of old identities, and learning to see themselves the way God already does. Through raw storytelling, they unpack the meaning behind Rebecca’s rebaptism, exploring childhood faith, spiritual wounds, and the sacred moment of choosing Jesus again… with full awareness, full agency, and full surrender.

This conversation weaves through themes of spiritual pruning, ego death, and the holy unraveling that often precedes healing. Together, they reflect on what it means to let God love you, to release the parts of yourself you once used for survival, and to step into the slow, deep work of being remade from the inside out.

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If you’re in a season of breaking, rebuilding, or rediscovering who you are in God’s eyes, this episode will feel like a breath of air in the wilderness.

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Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.

In this powerful continuation of Sterling’s story, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down once again with Sterling Griggs as he shares the miraculous details of his near-death experience and the dreams, visions, and divine encounters that carried him through a medically induced coma.

Sterling’s testimony paints a vivid picture of what it means to cling to faith when your body is broken but your spirit is still fighting. From surreal visions that blurred the line between Heaven and earth to the unwavering love of his wife Kelly and their community, this episode is a reminder that God is always present, even when we’re suspended between life and eternity.

This is a story about hope, healing, and the miracles that happen when we fully surrender to God’s plan.

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If you’ve ever wondered what divine intervention feels like, or how faith can breathe life into even the darkest valleys, this conversation will leave you in awe of the God who never lets go.

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