We know this has been one of the hardest years we have faced. All of us are feeling it. In this show Doug and J.R. talk about a few practical ways they will intentionally enter into 2021.

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Doug and J.R. have a 30,000 foot conversation with Brain Sanders, the architect of Tampa Underground, about the future of The Church, forest fires, and grace.

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Pastors and Leaders, I (Doug) am really excited for this interview to go live. Dr. MaryKate Morse is one of my favorite people. She loves Jesus and has poured her life into equipping leaders of all shapes and sizes. The conversation moves towards making the case for mentorship and health in ministry.

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Have you ever felt the weight of the mantle of Pastor? Have you ever experienced a spiritual stroke? Have you ever beat yourself up? Doug and J.R. bring back a timely conversation from the vault. Jon has wisdom for those who have experienced the weight of ministry and has some beautifully simple yet deeply powerful practices and encouragement for all of us.

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Doug and J.R. weigh in on leadership in congregations during high tension seasons. We take a deep dive into convicted civility which is found in J.R.’s book The Sacred Overlap. If you find yourself in the middle of people on opposite sides of the election, masks, and pandemic policies, we believe there will be some helpful principles and stories in here that may be an encouragement to you.

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J.R. and Doug take moment the week of Thanksgiving to reflect on the conversations that have shaped, encouraged and challenged them so far over season 5.

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Have you felt the ambient anxiety that pervades the nooks and crannies of everyday life in the pandemic, polarization, and unrest of our time and space? Everyday ordinary tasks like making decisions, conversations with parishioners, and where to buy your groceries become difficult in the atmosphere we are living in. Steve Cuss talks about naming anxiety, facing anxiety and learning to becoming non-anxious. You will want to listen to this one twice.

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J.R. talks with Mason King about calling, formation, deformation, and temptations.

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As the pandemic is spiking both globally and in North America, we continue to hear stories of pastors and leaders experiencing mental health concerns. Doug and J.R. thought it would help bring back an episode from the vault with our good friend Dave Eckert on

mental illness and pastors.

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We apologize for the lateness of this week's episode, but we are excited to share a fantastic conversation J.R. had with pastor/author Tim Soerens.

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