Money for Change

Welkom bij Money for Change, de wekelijkse podcast van Triodos Bank! In deze podcast delen we inzichten en uitdagingen met betrekking tot onze kernvraag: hoe kunnen we de verandering naar een eerlijke en duurzame wereld versnellen?

Elke aflevering duiken we in een specifiek onderwerp dat relevant is voor het beantwoorden van deze vraag. Het kan gaan over betaalbare huisvesting, het inclusiever maken van de zorgsector of het financieren van natuurbehoud. Hans Stegeman, hoofdeconoom van Triodos Bank, is een vaste gast van de show.

De rol van centrale banken is duidelijk; zij hebben als publieke instelling een tweeledige taak waarin ze via monetair beleid de hoeveelheid geld in een economie beïnvloeden en daarnaast toezicht moeten houden op de financiële sector. Dit samen moet er toe leiden dat de financiële stabiliteit in een economie bewaakt wordt. Deze taak lijkt misschien helder, toch bestaat er discussie over wat centrale banken nou precies moeten doen. Hoe moet je als centrale bank bijvoorbeeld omgaan met de kennis dat klimaatverandering significante risico’s veroorzaakt in de economie op globale schaal, en daarmee voor financiële stabiliteit? Samen met Gerdie Knijp, project manager bij het Sustainable Finance Lab in Utrecht, gaan we in op deze discussies. Zo worden er sinds het Klimaatakkoord van Parijs in 2015 richtlijnen uitgezet door de ECB waar financiële instellingen zich aan moeten houden. Tegelijk zouden centrale banken nog een hoop meer druk kunnen uitoefenen op de financiële sector om een groene economie af te dwingen en zo tegelijkertijd financiële stabiliteit te waarborgen

Aan het begin van de episode nemen we ook wat nieuws door over de chemiebedrijven die Nederland dreigen te verlaten, de uitspraak tegen Greenpeace en een nieuw onderzoek over de factoren die leiden tot een langer leven. Veel luisterplezier!

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Host: Ernst Hobma

Vaste gast: Hans Stegeman

Gast: Gerdie Knijp

Welkom bij Money for Change, de wekelijkse podcast van Triodos Bank! In deze podcast delen we inzichten en uitdagingen met betrekking tot onze kernvraag: hoe kunnen we de verandering naar een eerlijke en duurzame wereld versnellen?

Elke aflevering duiken we in een specifiek onderwerp dat relevant is voor het beantwoorden van deze vraag. Het kan gaan over betaalbare huisvesting, het inclusiever maken van de zorgsector of het financieren van natuurbehoud. Hans Stegeman, hoofdeconoom van Triodos Bank, is een vaste gast van de show.

Donald Trump veroorzaakt momenteel een aardverschuiving in het geopolitieke landschap. Het ontketenen van een handelsoorlog en het terugschroeven van militaire steun aan defensie zijn twee van de manieren waarop Europa zwaar wordt getroffen. Bovendien zijn we de afgelopen jaren in toenemende mate afhankelijk geworden van vloeibaar gas uit de Verenigde Staten. ‘Hoe nu verder?’ is de vraag die nu centraal staat binnen de Europese Unie. In deze podcast hebben we het samen met onze collega Joeri de Wilde, macro-econoom en onderzoeker op het gebied van ontwikkelde economieën, over de strategieën die Europa hanteert om onafhankelijker te worden van zijn (voormalige)bondgenoten. Hierbij nemen we ook het veelbesproken Draghi-rapport en ‘Competitiveness Compass’ op een kritische wijze onder de loep en bieden we een alternatief verhaal voor de Europese economie.

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Host: Ernst Hobma

Vaste gast: Hans Stegeman

Gast: Joeri de Wilde

Welkom bij Money for Change, de wekelijkse podcast van Triodos Bank! In deze podcast delen we inzichten en uitdagingen met betrekking tot onze kernvraag: hoe kunnen we de verandering naar een eerlijke en duurzame wereld versnellen?

Elke aflevering duiken we in een specifiek onderwerp dat relevant is voor het beantwoorden van deze vraag. Het kan gaan over betaalbare huisvesting, het inclusiever maken van de zorgsector of het financieren van natuurbehoud. Hans Stegeman, hoofdeconoom van Triodos Bank, is een terugkerende gast van de show.

De EU Omnibus is een voorstel van de Europese Commissie om een aantal wetten – zoals de CSRD - gericht op verduurzaming en maatschappelijk verantwoord ondernemen te bundelen en te ‘versimpelen’. Eén van de richtlijnen die deel uitmaakt van deze verzameling is de zogeheten ‘anti-wegkijk wetgeving (CSDDD); Een richtlijn die bedrijven verplicht om actie te ondernemen bij misstanden of risico op misstanden op het gebied van mensenrechten en het milieu, bijvoorbeeld als er een vermoeden is van kinderarbeid in de keten. Onze gast in deze aflevering, Lara Wolters, is een van de aanjagers en ontwerpers van deze regelgeving en zit namens GroenLinks-PvdA in het Europees parlement. Lara praat ons bij over hoe het ervoor staat met het EU Omnibus initiatief, dat onder flinke druk van de (extreem) rechtse flank van het Europarlement en een krachtige bedrijvenlobby lijkt te worden afgebroken in plaats van versimpeld. Bedrijven met een duurzame koers, als Triodos Bank, maken zich hier grote zorgen over. Het lijkt er steeds meer op dat bedrijven die verduurzamen eerder worden gestraft dan gesteund door wetgeving vanuit Brussel. Kan het tij nog gekeerd worden in Brussel? En wat is daarvoor nodig? Luister het gesprek met Lara op je favoriete podcast app.

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Host: Sanne van Keulen

Vaste gast: Hans Stegeman

Gast: Lara Wolters

Welcome to Money for Change, the weekly podcast made by Triodos Bank! In this podcast, we will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we accelerate the change to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we will dive into a specific topic that is relevant for answering this question. It can be about creating affordable housing, making the care sector more inclusive or financing nature conservation. Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist, is a recurring guest in the show.

New EU legislation has now mandated that producers of electronic devices must repair their products for a reasonable price after the legal warranty period has expired. A supporter of this law? The Right to Repair Coalition, an initiative that advocates for legislation and directives that try to promote the repairing of products on both the producer as consumer side. This legislation is crucial, as the right to repair is a key driver for advancing a circular economy. However, the resistance of manufacturers, alongside economic considerations, poses significant challenges to this important shift. In this episode we’ll discuss the effectiveness of Right to Repair Legislation with Cristian Ganapini, coordinator of the coalition. Together with Hans we’ll also dive into the core question of our podcast; what role does money play in all of this?

If you have any comments or questions about this episode, feel free to contact us using the form on our webpage: https://www.triodos.com/en/podcasts/money-for-change

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Host: Emma de Leeuws

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Cristina Ganapini

Welcome to Money for Change, the weekly podcast made by Triodos Bank! In this podcast, we will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we accelerate the change to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we will dive into specific topic that is relevant for answering this question. It can be about creating affordable housing, making the care sector more inclusive or financing nature conservation. Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist, is a recurring guest in the show.

A topic that has gained much attention in recent years - and in the last few weeks due to a case in the Netherlands – is the fact that court cases against governments and corporates to enforce climate action are on the rise. By now, hundreds of court cases, often filed by NGO’s and groups of citizens, are being processed by national and international courts in different stages. Some cases are won, some are lost. Three weeks ago, Greenpeace won a court case that is meant to enforce the Dutch government to abide by its own law regarding nature protection. The key question here is whether these court cases help to accelerate climate action, or that they may also be an increasing source of climate hesitance, forming even an obstacle to the climate transition. In this episode we’ll discuss this topic with Eefje de Kroon, a legal expert and lead campaigner at Greenpeace, involved in several court cases.

At the end of the episode, Hans will share his thoughts on the recent trend of large companies pulling back from their sustainability commitments, a move that could signal the end of what we call ‘green capitalism’

If you have any comments or questions about this episode, feel free to contact us using the form on our webpage: https://www.triodos.com/en/podcasts/money-for-change

Enjoy listening and don’t forget to rate & follow us!

Host: Sanne van Keulen

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Eefje de Kroon

Welcome to Money for Change, a brand-new podcast from Triodos Bank! In this weekly podcast, the Impact & Economics department will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we transition to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we’ll be joined by Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist. Together, we’ll dive into various topics and current affairs related to this overarching question, exploring ways in which these necessary changes might be realized.

This week, we welcome Tim Crijns, Fund Manager of Triodos Microfinance Fund, to discuss how targeted financial support can create innovative pathways for adaptation and mitigation in the face of climate challenges. With insights from Hans. we explore the pressing question: How can microfinance be a game-changer for those most affected by climate injustice? We shine a light on the transformative power of microfinance in combating climate change, particularly in developing nations that disproportionately bear its burdens. Discover how small loans can empower entrepreneurs, support climate resilience, and drive sustainable solutions in emerging economies.

The episode will be concluded by Hans’ news items of this week where you will hear Hans draw parallels between current AI development and the Space Race, provoking Ernst to update one of history’s most famous quotes…

If you have any comments or questions about this episode, feel free to contact us using the form on our webpage: https://www.triodos.com/en/podcasts/money-for-change 

Enjoy listening and don’t forget to rate & follow us!

Host: Emma de Leeuw

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Tim Crijns

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Link to AEX Futureproof Index Report; https://static1.squarespace.com/static/670038036fca3f6e87032aca/t/67a4f9e05792ac4ac0b597cc/1738865132882/AEX+INDEX+REPORT.pdf 

Welcome to Money for Change, a brand-new podcast from Triodos Bank! In this weekly podcast, the Impact & Economics department will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we transition to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we’ll be joined by Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist. Together, we’ll dive into various topics and current affairs related to this overarching question, exploring ways in which these necessary changes might be realized.

In the episode of this week, we’re going to discuss who is better off: US citizens or EU citizens? Conventionally economists might look at GDP per capita numbers and conclude that US citizens are on average better off than EU citizens. Yet, GDP fails to take into account some of the aspects that matter. Beyond GDP is the movement that tries to correct these shortcomings. Together with Annegeke Jansen, PhD candidate at the WISE Horizons project in Leiden, we’re going to examine the various dimensions of Beyond GDP. You will find out where citizens live healthier, where they are safer and where most ecological damage is done. We end by discussing what policymakers should do differently from a Beyond GDP perspective.

The episode will be concluded by Hans’ news items of this week where you will hear Hans draw parallels between current AI development and the Space Race, provoking Ernst to update one of history’s most famous quotes…

Enjoy listening and don’t forget to rate & follow us!

Host: Ernst Hobma

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Annegeke Jansen

Note: In the episode Hans and Ernst say that the median income in the US is lower than in the EU, but this is incorrect. While the average income of the bottom 50% of income earners is lower in the US, the median income is higher than in the EU. This shows that inequality of income within the bottom 50% of income earners is greater in the US than in the EU.

For suggestions, comments or questions, please use the contact form on this page: https://www.triodos.com/en/podcasts/money-for-change

Welcome to Money for Change, a podcast from Triodos Bank! In this weekly podcast, the Impact & Economics department will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we transition to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we’ll be joined by Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist. Together, we’ll dive into various topics and current affairs related to this overarching question, exploring ways in which these necessary changes might be realized.

Since the founding of Triodos Bank, we have maintained a clear stance on investing in weapons: we simply do not invest in weapons, and we believe the entire private sector should refrain from doing so. However, in recent years conflict has intensified in various parts of the world with with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the outbursts of violence in Sudan, Gaza and Lebanon. A dditionally, the newly inaugurated president of the United States Additionally, the newly inaugurated president of the United States has made war threat in relation to Greenland and Panama. In l ight of these developments, we have invited Daan Spaangaren, senior investment strategist at PME (the pension fund for the metal high-tech sector) as guest to discuss investing in weapons. PME takes a different view on investing in weapons from Triodos. We’ll discuss the ethical and economic considerations involved in investing in weapons. And of course deal with the question; should private financial institutions invest in weapons?

Enjoy listening to this episode of Money for Change and don’t forget to rate & follow us!

If you have any comments or questions about this episode, feel free to contact us using the form on our webpage: https://www.triodos.com/en/podcasts/money-for-change

Host: Sanne van Keulen

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Daan Spaangaren

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Triodos’ position towards weapon investments explained; https://www.triodos.co.uk/articles/2024/why-the-financial-sector-should-never-invest-in-weapons#:~:text=Triodos%20Bank%20does%20not%20invest%20in%20weapons%2C%20never,why%20investing%20in%20weapons%20should%20not%20become%20normal 

Welcome to Money for Change, a brand-new podcast from Triodos Bank! In this weekly podcast, the Impact & Economics department will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we transition to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we’ll be joined by Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist. Together, we’ll dive into various topics and current affairs related to this overarching question, exploring ways in which these necessary changes might be realized.

If you follow our socials you probably haven seen our social tipping point research passing by. Social tipping points refer to moments of relatively small changes in our behavior that can lead to a significant shift in the embedded norms of our system. Our study has found that the social tipping points regarding our five transition themes are mostly closer than we think. Simply put; many Dutch people want change, and quite a few people are already trying to bring about this change as well. In this episode we will analyze and discuss the most important findings with professor of socio-economic transitions Derk Loorbach at the office of the Dutch Research Institute For Transition. Together we’ll explore what proportion of society is needed to achieve our ‘social tipping points’ and how the institutional resistance that we see in politics amongst others can be interpreted as a sign of us actually coming closer to these tipping points.

Enjoy listening to this special episode of Money for Change and don’t forget to rate & follow us!

If you have any comments or questions about this episode, feel free to contact us using the form on our webpage: https://www.triodos.com/en/podcasts/money-for-change

Host: Ernst Hobma

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Derk Loorbach

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Press release on Social Tipping Points research (Dutch); https://www.triodos.nl/persberichten/2025/250102-kantelpunten-voor-cruciale-veranderingen-binnen-handbereik#nieuwe-economie

Welcome to Money for Change, a brand-new podcast from Triodos Bank! In this weekly podcast, the Impact & Economics department will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we transition to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we’ll be joined by Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist. Together, we’ll dive into various topics and current affairs related to this overarching question, exploring ways in which these necessary changes might be realized.

In the episode of this week, we’re going to discuss the subject of wealth inequality, an issue that is widely recognized as problematic. Wealth inequality has proven to harm social cohesion, hinder social mobility and creates an ecological problem when the lifestyles of the ultra-wealthy exceed our planet’s environmental limits. Furthermore, wealth often buys political power, undermining democracies. Therefore, rising wealth inequality is an obstacle to just sustainability transitions. Together with Wouter Leenders, PHD candidate at the University of California at Berkely, we’re going to examine the various dimensions of this issue and discuss what we can actively do to tackle it.

The episode will be concluded by Hans’ two news items of this week which are closely related to the subject of today; the record-breaking global warming of last year and the striking statistic of how long it took the richest people to burn through their carbon budget for 2025.

Enjoy listening and don’t forget to rate & follow us!

Host: Ernst Hobma

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Wouter Leenders

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