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  • E426: Entrepreneur: Former CPA Charlie Shabazz tells us how she pivoted her career to Nothing Bundt Cake Franchisee.

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    Two-time Emmy and Three-NAACP Image Award-winning television producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Charlie Shabazz.  

    owner of a Nothing Bundt Cakes franchise in Tucker, Georgia. Charlie's entrepreneurial journey is particularly inspiring because she did not come from a baking background. Instead, she built her career as a CPA and tax professional before transitioning into franchise ownership.

    The conversation explores entrepreneurship, overcoming fear, franchising, financial discipline, mentorship, career pivots, and the importance of pursuing opportunities even when they fall outside your comfort zone.

    Purpose of the Interview

    The purpose of the interview was to:

    • Share Charlie Shabazz's entrepreneurial journey.
    • Explain the realities of franchise ownership.
    • Encourage aspiring entrepreneurs to overcome fear.
    • Demonstrate the value of mentorship and preparation.
    • Discuss financial discipline and debt management.
    • Inspire listeners to pursue opportunities outside their original career path.
    • Highlight successful Black women entrepreneurs.

    About Charlie Shabazz

    Before becoming a franchise owner, Charlie:

    • Grew up in Philadelphia.
    • Graduated from Temple University.
    • Earned a degree in Accounting.
    • Obtained a Master's degree in Taxation.
    • Became a CPA.
    • Built a successful career in tax accounting.

    For years, she expected accounting to be her lifelong profession.

    As she explained:

    "I thought I would do taxes for the rest of my life."

    Life ultimately had different plans.

    Key Takeaways

    1. Fear Should Not Dictate Your Future

    One of the strongest themes throughout the interview was overcoming fear.

    Charlie left Philadelphia to pursue an opportunity in Atlanta despite uncertainty.

    She faced concerns such as:

    • Leaving family behind
    • Starting over in a new city
    • Taking professional risks
    • Building a new support system

    Yet she moved forward anyway.

    Key Point: Courage is not the absence of fear. It is acting despite fear.

    2. Mentorship Accelerated Her Growth

    When Charlie wanted to learn business taxation, she realized she lacked experience.

    Instead of avoiding the challenge, she proactively sought a mentor.

    Her approach was simple:

    • Contact an experienced CPA.
    • Offer to work for free.
    • Learn as much as possible.

    The mentor accepted.

    Charlie credits this experience with helping her gain expertise in business tax preparation.

    Key Point: Great mentors can dramatically shorten the learning curve.

    3. Success Requires Sacrifice

    During the interview, a caller asked how Charlie managed finances while building her career.

    Charlie openly discussed financial struggles.

    At one point:

    • She carried credit card debt.
    • Faced financial stress.
    • Needed a structured repayment plan.

    She created a spreadsheet tracking:

    • Every credit card balance
    • Monthly payments
    • Payoff goals

    She followed the plan consistently.

    Key Point: Financial success often starts with discipline rather than income.

    4. Every Dream Needs a Plan

    Charlie emphasized the importance of having a plan.

    She explained that dreams alone are not enough.

    Success requires:

    • Clear goals
    • Strategy
    • Consistent execution
    • Accountability

    Her own progress came from deliberate planning rather than luck.

    5. Opportunities Often Arrive Unexpectedly

    One surprising fact from the interview:

    Charlie was not originally planning to own a Nothing Bundt Cakes franchise.

    Her original goal was simply:

    Bring a bakery to Tucker, Georgia.

    She initially explored another bakery franchise opportunity.

    When that deal fell apart, she started looking for alternatives.

    That search eventually led her to Nothing Bundt Cakes.

    Key Point: Sometimes disappointment redirects us toward better opportunities.

    6. She Wasn't a Baker

    Perhaps the most inspiring part of the conversation was Charlie's admission that she did not come from a baking background.

    In fact:

    • She was a CPA.
    • She never envisioned owning a bakery.
    • Baking was not her profession.

    Her success came from:

    • Business skills
    • Leadership
    • Determination
    • Willingness to learn

    Key Point: You do not always have to be the technical expert to own a successful business.

    7. Franchising Provides a Proven Blueprint

    Charlie explained franchising in simple terms.

    A franchise system gives owners access to:

    • Established products
    • Proven processes
    • Operational systems
    • Marketing support
    • Brand recognition

    When franchise founders have already worked through the challenges, new owners can follow an established roadmap.

    Key Point: Franchising reduces some startup risk by providing a proven business model.

    8. Pivoting Is Part of Entrepreneurship

    A recurring lesson throughout the interview was adaptability.

    Charlie started with one idea.

    That idea evolved.

    The franchise she initially considered changed.

    New opportunities emerged.

    Instead of fighting change, she embraced it.

    As she explained, entrepreneurs must sometimes:

    • Adjust
    • Pivot
    • Adapt
    • Reevaluate

    without losing sight of the larger goal.

    9. Black Women Continue to Lead in Entrepreneurship

    Rushion asked Charlie why Black women have become one of the fastest-growing groups in entrepreneurship.

    She credited:

    • Strong mothers
    • Community support
    • Determination
    • High expectations

    Charlie noted that many Black women are taught early:

    • To pursue education
    • To strive for excellence
    • To create opportunities

    These influences frequently become entrepreneurial strengths.

    10. Relationships Matter

    One reason Charlie personally delivered products and interacted with customers was her commitment to relationship building.

    She believes success comes from:

    • Community engagement
    • Networking
    • Visibility
    • Personal connections

    She remains active in organizations such as:

    • Local Chambers of Commerce
    • Business associations
    • Community groups

    Key Point: Businesses grow through relationships as much as products.

    11. Know Your Strengths

    As her business expanded, Charlie learned an important leadership lesson:

    You cannot do everything yourself.

    She identified her strengths as:

    • Relationship building
    • Community outreach
    • Marketing
    • Networking

    Other team members focus on operational responsibilities.

    Key Point: Successful leaders build teams around complementary strengths.

    12. Entrepreneurship Is About Solving Problems

    Charlie's story demonstrates a powerful entrepreneurial principle:

    She did not begin with a perfect business idea.

    She began with identifying a need.

    She recognized:

    • A growing community
    • A desirable retail location
    • A missing business category

    From there she found the right opportunity to fill that gap.

    Key Point: Entrepreneurs succeed by solving problems and serving communities.

    Lessons From the Caller Interactions

    Several audience members called into the show.

    Common themes included:

    Financial Challenges

    Charlie shared practical debt-reduction strategies and emphasized consistency.

    Franchising Questions

    She explained how franchise systems work and why they can be valuable for entrepreneurs.

    Entrepreneurship Fears

    Callers discussed uncertainty, risk, and overcoming hesitation when pursuing business ownership.

    Community Support

    Many listeners expressed appreciation for seeing successful Black-owned businesses highlighted.

    Memorable Quotes

    Charlie Shabazz

    "I can always go back was my mindset, until Atlanta became home."

    "I offered to work for free so I could learn."

    "You have to sacrifice to get where you want to be."

    "The struggle was absolutely real."

    "You have to stay committed to the plan."

    "Sometimes you have to be open to the pivot."

    "Nothing Bundt Cakes wasn't necessarily the plan."

    "Know what you're good at and what you're not good at."

    Rushion McDonald

    "Fear drives so many people from reaching their dreams."

    "Everything I've done in my life, I wanted to do."

    "Dreams become real when you put them on paper."

    "People stop themselves because they think they need to know everything."

    Overall Message

    Charlie Shabazz's journey proves that entrepreneurial success does not require a traditional path. A CPA with a tax background became the owner of a thriving bakery franchise not because she was a professional baker, but because she embraced opportunity, listened to mentors, stayed disciplined, adapted when plans changed, and refused to let fear dictate her future. Her story demonstrates that with preparation, persistence, and a willingness to pivot, entrepreneurs can build successful businesses even in industries they never originally imagined entering.

    Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushion McDonald is America's premier entrepreneurship, business leadership, financial literacy, and wealth-building podcast featuring successful entrepreneurs, executives, founders, celebrities, and industry experts sharing actionable insights for professional and financial success.

    Business Podcast

    Entrepreneurship

    Small Business

    Business Growth

    Financial Literacy

    Wealth Building

    Black Entrepreneurs

    Minority Business

    Leadership

    Executive Leadership

    Business Funding

    Marketing Strategies

    Personal Development

    Startup Advice

    Sales Training

    CEO Interviews

    Founder Stories

    Professional Development

    Economic Empowerment

    Business Success

    Networking

    Brand Building

    Innovation

    How to start a business

    Small business funding

    Entrepreneur success stories

    Business leadership podcast

    Wealth building strategies

    Black entrepreneur podcast

    Minority business development

    Marketing for small businesses

    Business growth strategies

    Startup funding opportunities

    Executive leadership training

    Financial literacy education

    Success mindset podcast

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    29 min
  • Entrepreneur: Two African American Men launch a gourmet Popcorn Company with flavors like Crab Legs, Banana Puddin', Red Velvet Cheesecake by Popcorn Remix, Greg Bowman and Ryan Richmond.

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    Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning TV Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviews Greg Bowman and Ryan Richmond.

    Co-owners of Popcorn Remix, a gourmet popcorn company based in Conyers, Georgia. The conversation explores their entrepreneurial journey, rapid business growth, community involvement, unique branding strategy, and the mindset that helped turn a simple idea into a thriving business.

    Purpose of the Interview

    The interview serves several purposes:

    • To share the entrepreneurial story behind Popcorn Remix.
    • To inspire aspiring business owners to pursue their ideas.
    • To demonstrate the value of partnerships, relationships, and community support.
    • To highlight innovative fundraising opportunities for schools, nonprofits, and youth organizations.
    • To showcase how creativity and personality can differentiate a company in a crowded marketplace.

    As Rushion noted, the interview is ultimately about "following your dream," building the right support system, and believing in your vision.

    Key Takeaways 1. Great Businesses Can Start from Unexpected Moments

    Ryan Richmond's idea for Popcorn Remix was born after being snowed into a popcorn shop while attending his grandfather's funeral in Peoria, Illinois. What began as curiosity turned into a business opportunity.

    Lesson: Opportunities often appear in unexpected places if you're paying attention.

    2. Strong Partnerships Matter

    Ryan credited Greg Bowman and his wife, Kenyatta Richmond, as critical partners in building the business.

    • His wife helped develop the brand name "Popcorn Remix."
    • Greg brought industry relationships, marketing expertise, and business development support.
    • Their collective effort accelerated growth.

    Lesson: Success is rarely achieved alone.

    3. Differentiation Creates Demand

    Instead of offering traditional popcorn flavors alone, Popcorn Remix introduced bold flavors such as:

    • Hot Wing & Lemon Pepper
    • Jerk Chicken
    • King Crab Legs
    • Jambalaya
    • Banana Pudding
    • Cookies & Cream
    • Birthday Cake
    • Loaded Baked Potato

    Their philosophy is simple:

    Don't just sell popcorn. Remix it.

    Lesson: Innovation and creativity can transform an ordinary product into a memorable brand.

    4. Personality is Part of the Brand

    Throughout the interview, Greg and Ryan's humor, authenticity, and charisma were on full display.

    Rushion repeatedly noted that people are drawn not only to their product but also to who they are.

    Lesson: Customers buy into people and stories as much as products.

    5. Giving Back Was Built into the Business Model

    From the beginning, Popcorn Remix incorporated fundraising as a core part of its mission.

    Their fundraising program:

    • Returns 50% of proceeds to participating organizations.
    • Helps schools, athletic teams, youth programs, and nonprofits.
    • Requires no upfront investment from participating groups.

    Lesson: Businesses can create community impact while generating revenue.

    6. Humble Beginnings Can Fuel Purpose

    Ryan openly shared growing up with a single mother, relying on food stamps and food banks.

    These experiences shaped his desire to help others and create opportunities for underserved communities.

    Lesson: Adversity can become motivation rather than limitation.

    7. Relationships Create Opportunities

    The owners emphasized that many of their opportunities came from people who believed in them and honored their commitments.

    They secured partnerships and venue placements because decision-makers trusted them and their vision.

    Lesson: Character and relationships often open doors before products do.

    8. Dreams Don't Expire

    One of the most powerful themes of the interview was perseverance.

    Rushion reminded listeners that age and timing should never stop someone from pursuing a dream.

    Lesson: Keep pursuing your vision regardless of how long it takes.

    Notable Quotes Ryan Richmond

    "I got snowed into a popcorn shop, and a light turned on."

    "We didn't land in traffic. We landed in the HOV lane."

    "It's one thing for you to ask, 'What can I do?' It's another thing to put in endless hours and resources."

    "We wanted to give back from day one."

    "People don't have to do nice things, and when they do, it doesn't have to be for you."

    Greg Bowman

    "We've never had a customer say, 'There's nothing here that I like.'"

    "Retail. Get ready. We're on our way."

    Rushion McDonald

    "It's about following your dream."

    "You need to have a support group around you that believes in your idea."

    "Dreams don't expire."

    "How does your success benefit other than you and your family?"

    Overall Message

    The interview is a powerful example of how creativity, persistence, authentic relationships, and community-minded leadership can turn a simple idea into a fast-growing business. Greg Bowman and Ryan Richmond demonstrate that entrepreneurship is not just about selling a product. It's about creating an experience, building meaningful connections, giving back, and remaining committed to a vision even when others may doubt it. Their story reinforces Rushion McDonald's recurring theme: lead with your gifts, trust your dream, and surround yourself with people who believe in your success.

    Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushion McDonald is America's premier entrepreneurship, business leadership, financial literacy, and wealth-building podcast featuring successful entrepreneurs, executives, founders, celebrities, and industry experts sharing actionable insights for professional and financial success.

    Business Podcast

    Entrepreneurship

    Small Business

    Business Growth

    Financial Literacy

    Wealth Building

    Black Entrepreneurs

    Minority Business

    Leadership

    Executive Leadership

    Business Funding

    Marketing Strategies

    Personal Development

    Startup Advice

    Sales Training

    CEO Interviews

    Founder Stories

    Professional Development

    Economic Empowerment

    Business Success

    Networking

    Brand Building

    Innovation

    How to start a business

    Small business funding

    Entrepreneur success stories

    Business leadership podcast

    Wealth building strategies

    Black entrepreneur podcast

    Minority business development

    Marketing for small businesses

    Business growth strategies

    Startup funding opportunities

    Executive leadership training

    Financial literacy education

    Success mindset podcast

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    28 min
  • Prank Phone Call King Nephew Tommy/Thomas Miles talks about overcoming the odds to host OWN’s Real Love and co-hosting the Steve Harvey Morning Show.

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    Two-time Emmy and three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald, interviews Nephew Tommy.

    Better known to many as Nephew Tommy from The Steve Harvey Morning Show. The conversation explores Thomas's remarkable career evolution from stand-up comedian and actor to nationally recognized radio personality, television host, philanthropist, entrepreneur, and family man.

    The discussion centers on his role as host of OWN's hit relationship series Ready to Love, his journey in entertainment, the creation of the Nephew Tommy persona, the importance of opportunities, and his commitment to supporting military veterans through his charitable foundation.

    About Thomas Miles

    Thomas Miles is:

    • Host of OWN's Ready to Love
    • Radio personality on The Steve Harvey Morning Show
    • Stand-up comedian
    • Actor
    • Producer
    • Philanthropist
    • Entrepreneur

    While many know him as Nephew Tommy, his career actually began long before his radio fame.

    His resume includes:

    • Stand-up comedy
    • Television acting
    • Touring with Luther Vandross
    • Hosting television programs
    • Producing content
    • Community service initiatives

    Key Takeaways

    1. The Journey Came Full Circle

    Rushion noted that he originally met Thomas as:

    Thomas Miles

    before the world knew him as Nephew Tommy.

    Thomas explained that while Nephew Tommy became the vehicle that expanded his brand nationally, he is now reaching a point where people are recognizing him again as:

    Thomas Miles

    the entertainer, host, actor, and entrepreneur.

    He described it as:

    "Going around the world to get back to my name."

    Lesson

    Sometimes success requires embracing a new identity before people fully recognize your original vision.

    Ready to Love Changed His Career

    One of the main subjects of the interview was OWN's hit dating series:

    Ready to Love

    Executive produced by:

    Will Packer

    The show's purpose is different from traditional dating shows.

    Instead of focusing on younger contestants seeking attention or fame, Ready to Love features mature adults searching for authentic relationships.

    Contestants often include people who are:

    • In their 30s
    • In their 40s
    • In their 50s
    • Divorced
    • Parents
    • Career-focused professionals

    Many have achieved professional success but still desire meaningful companionship.

    Lesson

    Love remains important no matter how successful someone becomes.

    How He Landed the Job

    According to Thomas, the opportunity came directly from:

    Will Packer

    Packer reached out and suggested Thomas would be the perfect host.

    Initially, Thomas was skeptical.

    He saw himself primarily as:

    • A comedian
    • Radio personality
    • Prankster

    Will Packer viewed him differently.

    He believed Thomas's:

    • Marriage experience
    • Communication skills
    • Warm personality
    • Relatability

    made him ideal for hosting a relationship-centered show.

    That decision led to one of the most successful projects of his career.

    Lesson

    Sometimes others recognize gifts in us before we recognize them ourselves.

    Why Ready to Love Resonates

    Thomas explained that viewers connect with the show because the participants feel real.

    Unlike many dating programs, the contestants are dealing with real-life situations such as:

    • Children
    • Career obligations
    • Divorce
    • Busy lifestyles
    • Emotional healing

    The audience sees themselves reflected in the cast.

    Lesson

    Authenticity drives connection.

    How the Show Works

    Thomas explained the format:

    Starting Cast

    • Nine men
    • Nine women

    Over time:

    • Men eliminate women
    • Women eliminate men

    The process continues until only a few participants remain.

    The end goal is not:

    • Prize money
    • Luxury trips
    • Fame

    The reward is:

    Finding Love

    In later rounds, producers introduce additional contestants to create unexpected dynamics and test existing connections.

    The Show Became a Cultural Event

    Ready to Love transformed into more than a dating show.

    According to Thomas:

    • Couples watch together.
    • Friends gather for viewing parties.
    • Women host watch nights.
    • Viewers debate possible matches.

    For many fans:

    Friday Night = Ready to Love Night.

    Lesson

    Great television creates community.

    His Favorite Contestants

    While avoiding spoilers, Thomas identified a few standout personalities.

    Sierra

    A stylist whose authenticity and humor made her memorable.

    He admired that she refused to pretend to be someone she wasn't.

    Morgan

    One of the men he viewed as thoughtful, community-oriented, and grounded.

    Lesson

    People respond to individuals who remain genuine.

    Becoming the "Love Doctor"

    One surprising outcome of hosting Ready to Love:

    People now seek relationship advice from him.

    Thomas revealed that:

    • Friends contact him.
    • Neighbors approach him.
    • Couples ask for guidance.

    What began as a television hosting role evolved into becoming a trusted voice on relationships.

    Lesson

    Your career can take unexpected directions when people trust your perspective.

    The Birth of Nephew Tommy

    Another major topic was the creation of:

    Nephew Tommy

    Rushion shared a story that many listeners may not know.

    Before joining The Steve Harvey Morning Show, Thomas frequently visited Hollywood seeking acting opportunities.

    Rushion encouraged him to spend time on Steve Harvey's radio show.

    The opportunity wasn't glamorous.

    In fact, it required:

    • Waking up before dawn
    • Showing consistency
    • Working without immediate rewards

    But Thomas saw the value.

    Shortly afterward:

    Nephew Tommy was born.

    The chemistry between Steve Harvey and Thomas connected immediately with listeners.

    Lesson

    Career-changing opportunities often arrive disguised as hard work.

    The Power of Preparation

    One of Rushion's most important observations was that Thomas consistently showed up.

    When asked to:

    • Contribute
    • Create content
    • Perform prank calls

    he delivered.

    Over time he built:

    A Library of More Than 300 Prank Calls

    What felt like repetitive work at the time became a valuable content asset years later.

    Lesson

    Consistency creates long-term value.

    Miles of Giving

    One of the most inspiring portions of the interview focused on Thomas's philanthropic efforts.

    After participating in a:

    USO Tour

    he visited wounded soldiers recovering from combat injuries.

    One experience profoundly affected him.

    He met a wounded service member who had just lost his legs in combat but remained focused on returning to his fellow soldiers.

    That encounter changed Thomas's life.

    Launching Miles of Giving

    As a result, he founded:

    Miles of Giving

    The organization's mission is simple:

    Provide immediate support to veterans and military families.

    Instead of waiting for lengthy approval processes, the foundation seeks to deliver help quickly when needed.

    Lesson

    Service is most impactful when it addresses immediate needs.

    Balancing Multiple Careers

    During the interview, Rushion noted how many roles Thomas successfully manages:

    • Television host
    • Radio personality
    • Actor
    • Stand-up comedian
    • Philanthropist
    • Entrepreneur
    • Husband
    • Father

    Thomas explained that he has reached a stage where he can focus more intentionally on projects he genuinely wants to pursue.

    Lesson

    Career maturity often brings clarity and choice.

    Expanding Into Acting

    Thomas also discussed newer acting opportunities.

    Among them:

    Lifetime's "Pride"

    produced under projects associated with:

    • T.D. Jakes
    • DeVon Franklin's team

    These opportunities allow audiences to see a different side of Thomas beyond comedy.

    Lesson

    Never limit yourself to one lane.

    Memorable Quotes

    Thomas Miles

    "The prize is love."

    "People are now calling me for relationship advice."

    "God gave me a job before I even knew I needed one."

    "Ready to Love became date night for many people."

    "I'm now able to show people different sides of my talent."

    Rushion McDonald

    "Go put the work in."

    "People want the paycheck before they see the opportunity."

    "Talent and preparation have to meet."

    "Your philanthropy is just as important as your entertainment success."

    Overall Message

    Thomas Miles's journey demonstrates how success often comes from embracing unexpected opportunities, remaining consistent, and staying open to growth. From supporting Luther Vandross on tour to becoming Nephew Tommy, hosting one of television's most popular relationship shows, building a philanthropic foundation, and expanding into acting and producing, his career reflects perseverance, versatility, and faith. His story reminds aspiring professionals that opportunities rarely arrive fully formed. Success comes from showing up, doing the work, building relationships, and trusting that today's small opportunity may become tomorrow's life-changing breakthrough.

    Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushion McDonald is America's premier entrepreneurship, business leadership, financial literacy, and wealth-building podcast featuring successful entrepreneurs, executives, founders, celebrities, and industry experts sharing actionable insights for professional and financial success.

    Business Podcast

    Entrepreneurship

    Small Business

    Business Growth

    Financial Literacy

    Wealth Building

    Black Entrepreneurs

    Minority Business

    Leadership

    Executive Leadership

    Business Funding

    Marketing Strategies

    Personal Development

    Startup Advice

    Sales Training

    CEO Interviews

    Founder Stories

    Professional Development

    Economic Empowerment

    Business Success

    Networking

    Brand Building

    Innovation

    How to start a business

    Small business funding

    Entrepreneur success stories

    Business leadership podcast

    Wealth building strategies

    Black entrepreneur podcast

    Minority business development

    Marketing for small businesses

    Business growth strategies

    Startup funding opportunities

    Executive leadership training

    Financial literacy education

    Success mindset podcast

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    27 min
  • Don't quit! Comedian Kier "Junior" Spates is living his dream despite being told he would not live past 11 years.

    Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushion McDonald is America's premier entrepreneurship, business leadership, financial literacy, and wealth-building podcast featuring successful entrepreneurs, executives, founders, celebrities, and industry experts sharing actionable insights for professional and financial success.

    Business Podcast

    Entrepreneurship

    Small Business

    Business Growth

    Financial Literacy

    Wealth Building

    Black Entrepreneurs

    Minority Business

    Leadership

    Executive Leadership

    Business Funding

    Marketing Strategies

    Personal Development

    Startup Advice

    Sales Training

    CEO Interviews

    Founder Stories

    Professional Development

    Economic Empowerment

    Business Success

    Networking

    Brand Building

    Innovation

    How to start a business

    Small business funding

    Entrepreneur success stories

    Business leadership podcast

    Wealth building strategies

    Black entrepreneur podcast

    Minority business development

    Marketing for small businesses

    Business growth strategies

    Startup funding opportunities

    Executive leadership training

    Financial literacy education

    Success mindset podcast

    Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald, interview Kier Spates. He is a Sickle Cell Warrior, and when he was diagnosed, he was told he would not live past 11 years. Today, he is a sickle cell survivor, Hollywood television writer, co-hosts the popular Steve Harvey Morning Show, hosts his radio show every Saturday in Atlanta, and is a touring stand-up comedian. He started his foundation called Kier's Hope for Sickle Cell survivors and hosts his motivational podcast, Living Your Life. Each week, join him and his board-certified medical co-host, Dr. Corey Hebert, as we meet incredible people who refuse to let a life-threatening illness hold them back from success. Plus, he talks with today's top medical, community, and entertainment influencers! 

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    27 min
  • Value Proposition Episode #3 - Tips on promoting your product and delivering a successful marketing pitch by Rushion McDonald.

    Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald recaps Value Proposition Episodes #1 and #2 and expounds on the following.   

    Hire an accountant and HR Person before you start selling your product or open the doors to your business.

    Stay away from negative people.

    Finding Your Product’s place in the market place

    • Set your goals immediately and make sure they are reachable
    • Don’t wait around for an opportunity
    • Knowing Your Work Environment
    • Developing Your Voice
    • Defining Your Visual Identity
    • Grow your relationships

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    29 min
  • Entrepreneur: Created Full Bloom platform to help you overcome adversity, rejection, and negativity, Paris Fletcher.

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    Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald, interviewed Paris Fletcher.  

    Paris founded Full Bloom to remind others that having a clear sense of self is imperative when facing adversity, rejection, and negativity. The teachings, resources, and guides shared on Full Bloom are created to foster that process of clarity and healing. Whether you are absorbing Paris’ inspirational TikToks or finding comfort in our website, we hope Full Bloom inspires and motivates you to bloom into the best version of yourself.

    Full Bloom is on a mission to help you bloom into your best self. We know all too well that self-reflection and inner growth are challenging. Full Bloom invites people to lean on the company for the support they need throughout every stage of their lives. Our ultimate goal is to provide guidance, resources, and the strength of a supportive culture to help you see and shine people's authentic light.

     

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  • Overcoming the Odds: She resisted pressures of conformity, loved herself, embraced her flaws and became successful, Comedian Loni Love.

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    Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald, interviewed Loni Love.  

    Her memoir, I Tried to Change So You Don't Have To. The conversation explores her journey from growing up in Detroit's Brewster Projects to becoming an Emmy Award-winning entertainer. Through humor, honesty, and reflection, Love shares lessons about perseverance, identity, self-acceptance, mentorship, and overcoming adversity.

    Purpose of the Interview

    The interview was designed to:

    • Promote Loni Love's memoir and the personal stories behind it.
    • Share her life journey from public housing in Detroit to success in entertainment.
    • Inspire people facing obstacles, self-doubt, or major life transitions.
    • Highlight the importance of telling authentic Black stories and experiences.
    • Encourage listeners to embrace who they are rather than trying to become someone else.

    Key Takeaways 1. Everyone Has a Story Worth Sharing

    Love explains that many people know her from television, but few understand the struggles, setbacks, and experiences that shaped her success.

    Quote:

    "I just wanted the people to understand my journey."

    She describes the memoir as an honest and personal account of how she became the person she is today.

    2. Community Can Change Your Life

    A recurring theme throughout the interview is the importance of having a support system.

    Love credits many people with helping her along the way, including her mother, church members, teachers, mentors, and sorority sisters. She emphasizes that no one succeeds completely alone.

    Quote:

    "When they say a village, it takes a village to raise a child, it really, really does."

    3. Black Women Were Central to Her Development

    Love speaks openly about the women who helped raise, guide, mentor, and support her throughout her life.

    From babysitters and church leaders to her Delta Sigma Theta sorority sisters, these women helped build her confidence, faith, and resilience.

    4. Adversity Can Become a Source of Strength

    One of the most memorable stories discussed is a chapter about her wrongful arrest in college.

    Love shares how the experience opened her eyes to realities she had never encountered before and ultimately helped shape her perspective on race, justice, and personal strength.

    5. Success Often Requires Reinvention

    Rushion repeatedly highlights Love's ability to recognize opportunities and pivot throughout her life.

    She successfully transitioned from engineering to manufacturing, then from corporate America to comedy, acting, and television.

    Quote:

    "This book is about pivoting too."

    6. Self-Acceptance Is Essential

    Another major lesson from the memoir is learning to stop changing yourself to meet other people's expectations.

    Love discusses struggles with body image, confidence, relationships, and career choices before learning that authenticity brings more fulfillment than trying to fit someone else's definition of success.

    7. Humor Can Help You Survive Anything

    Although the memoir addresses painful and difficult experiences, Love intentionally balances those stories with comedy.

    At the end of every chapter, she includes jokes to remind readers that even difficult situations can contain moments of laughter.

    Quote:

    "I want people to know that after every chapter, there's levity."

    8. Document Your Life

    Love encourages listeners to keep journals and document their experiences.

    She reveals that maintaining diaries over the years helped her write the memoir and gain a deeper understanding of her own growth.

    Quote:

    "Keep a diary or a journal, so that you can look back in five years and see where you come from and what you were dealing with."

    9. Representation Matters

    Love stresses the importance of people telling their own stories instead of allowing others to tell them.

    She believes authentic storytelling helps people understand one another and challenges stereotypes.

    Quote:

    "Black people are different. We're not all the same."

    Notable Quotes On her memoir

    "It's just a love letter to my fans."

    On sharing her story

    "I just wanted the people to understand my journey."

    On community

    "When they say a village, it takes a village to raise a child, it really, really does."

    On resilience

    "You can get out of anything, even though it seems impossible."

    On inspiration

    "If you feel hopeless, if you need some inspiration, understand that you are from a strong stock of people."

    On documenting life

    "Keep a diary or a journal."

    On representation

    "Black people are different. We're not all the same."

    Overall Assessment

    The interview is ultimately a conversation about resilience, faith, community, self-discovery, and authenticity. While promoting her memoir, Loni Love shares lessons from a lifetime of challenges and successes, encouraging listeners to embrace their uniqueness, rely on their community, remain adaptable, and recognize that their own stories have value. The central message is clear: lasting success comes not from changing who you are, but from understanding, accepting, and growing into your authentic self.

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  • Attorney Ken Harris wrote a controversial novel, "Dark Trades" - What if the South had won the Civil War?

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    Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald, interviewed Attorney Ken Harris.  

    Dark Trades is a controversial historical fiction novel that discuss "What if the South had won the Civil War?"

     Ken graduated from the University of North Carolina as an undergraduate and from law school. Harris has practiced law in North Carolina for over 30 years. He has handled and litigated personal injury claims across the state including to the North Carolina Court of Appeals. Harris is a former NBA and NFL agent. He has handled various business matters for Earvin "Magic" Johnson for over 25 years. Harris has also represented and worked with notable entertainment figures like Mathew Knowles. Harris is currently the CEO of one of the largest minority energy marketers in the US.

     

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  • The host of "New Soul Kitchen" & "New Soul Kitchen Remix" on CLEO TV talks food and business, Chef Jernard Wells.

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    Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviews Chef Jernard Wells. 

    Known for hosting New Soul Kitchen and New Soul Kitchen Remix on CLEO TV, Wells discusses holiday cooking, healthy twists on traditional soul food, family traditions, his culinary philosophy, and how food serves as a powerful connector across generations and communities.

    The conversation also highlights Wells' community involvement through the March of Dimes, his approach to making classic Southern recipes healthier, and the inspiration behind his cookbook, Southern Inspired: More Than 100 Delicious Dishes from My American Table to Yours.

    Purpose of the Interview

    The purpose of the interview was to:

    • Discuss holiday cooking ideas and seasonal meal planning.
    • Promote Chef Jernard Wells' cookbook and television programs.
    • Share practical cooking tips and healthy recipe alternatives.
    • Highlight the cultural significance of soul food and African American culinary traditions.
    • Showcase Wells' philanthropic work with March of Dimes.
    • Inspire families to reconnect through food and shared meals.

    Key Takeaways

    1. Food Is About Family and Connection

    Throughout the interview, Wells emphasized that cooking extends beyond recipes and ingredients.

    For him, food represents:

    • Family traditions
    • Shared memories
    • Community
    • Storytelling
    • Cultural heritage

    His cooking philosophy centers on bringing people together around the table.

    Key Point: Great food creates meaningful family connections and lasting memories.

    2. Soul Food Can Be Healthier Without Losing Flavor

    A major theme of Wells' career is modernizing traditional soul food while preserving its essence.

    Through his television shows and recipes, he teaches viewers how to:

    • Reduce unhealthy fats
    • Remove excess grease
    • Use healthier cooking methods
    • Maintain authentic flavors

    Examples include finishing fried chicken in the oven and using air fryers to reduce oil consumption.

    Key Point: Healthier cooking doesn't require sacrificing taste.

    3. Thanksgiving and Christmas Menus Are Evolving

    Wells noted that many families are moving away from large holiday turkeys and seeking simpler alternatives.

    Some of his recommendations include:

    • Fried Cornish hens
    • Sweet tea-brined fried chicken
    • Holiday brunch menus
    • Turkey and cornbread waffles
    • Creative leftovers recipes

    He believes modern families want meals that are both delicious and manageable.

    4. Cornish Hens Are an Underrated Holiday Option

    One of Wells' holiday cooking suggestions was fried Cornish hens.

    Benefits include:

    • Easier preparation
    • Faster cooking time
    • Individual servings
    • Holiday presentation
    • Less stress than large turkeys

    He encourages home cooks to experiment beyond traditional holiday centerpieces.

    5. Air Fryers Offer a Healthier Alternative

    Wells spent part of the interview explaining air-frying techniques.

    His approach includes:

    • Light battering
    • Olive oil application
    • Proper seasoning
    • Maintaining texture while reducing oil

    He emphasized that many foods traditionally deep-fried can achieve similar results through air frying.

    Key Point: Air fryers provide crispy textures while reducing grease and calories.

    6. Simpler Cooking Often Produces Better Results

    During the discussion, Wells explained a faster method for preparing cabbage.

    Rather than boiling cabbage for hours, he recommends:

    1. Salting cabbage first.
    2. Allowing natural moisture to release.
    3. Sautéing vegetables and seasonings.
    4. Adding stock at the end for flavor.

    This method dramatically reduces cooking time while enhancing taste and texture.

    Key Point: Understanding ingredients often matters more than lengthy cooking times.

    7. New Soul Kitchen Teaches Practical Cooking

    Wells explained that New Soul Kitchen focuses on helping viewers prepare classic soul food dishes using healthier methods.

    Recipes include dishes such as:

    • Oxtails
    • Jerk lamb chops
    • Sweet tea-brined fried chicken
    • Southern comfort foods

    The show's goal is to make traditional cooking accessible and healthier.

    8. New Soul Kitchen Remix Is Built Around Viewer Requests

    His second program, New Soul Kitchen Remix, takes a different approach.

    The show:

    • Features viewer-inspired recipes
    • Focuses on quick meals
    • Delivers dishes in 15 minutes or less
    • Responds directly to audience interests

    Many recipes originate from social media messages and viewer suggestions.

    Key Point: Listening to your audience can become a valuable source of innovation.

    9. Giving Back Matters

    Wells discussed his involvement with a March of Dimes fundraising gala benefiting premature babies and food support programs.

    The cause is personal because one of his own children was born prematurely.

    His participation reflects his commitment to community service and supporting families facing health challenges.

    10. Soul Food Is a Foundational Part of American Cuisine

    One of the most powerful moments in the interview occurred when Wells discussed the historical significance of soul food.

    He argued that soul food is not separate from American cuisine but a central part of it.

    His perspective emphasized the contributions of African Americans who adapted traditional cooking techniques and recipes to available ingredients in America, creating many of the foods now considered staples of Southern cuisine.

    Key Point: Food tells the story of culture, resilience, and history.

    Memorable Quotes

    Chef Jernard Wells

    "The best way to show people you actually care is to actually care."

    "A lot of people are getting away from the bigger birds."

    "People want to cook great food, but they also want time for themselves and their family."

    "Short on time, but you want all the flavor."

    "Everything that I do on the show, I actually cook in real time."

    "Soul food is really American cuisine."

    "Food connects us."

    "We're bringing it back to the way we cook, but in a healthier lifestyle sense."

    Rushion McDonald

    "The best things happen when people actually care."

    "Cornish hens? I've never cooked a Cornish hen in my life."

    "I thought I knew how to cook cabbage until you showed me your method."

    "Some of the best tasting cabbage I've ever had."

    "You truly are a star in the kitchen."

    Overall Message

    Chef Jernard Wells uses food as a vehicle for family, culture, education, and wellness. Through his television shows, cookbook, and public appearances, he encourages people to embrace the flavors and traditions of soul food while adopting healthier cooking techniques. His message is that food should nourish both the body and relationships, bringing generations together around meaningful meals while honoring the rich culinary history that helped shape American cuisine.

     

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  • Entrepreneur: Universoul Circus founder Cedric Walker said people told him in 1994 a circus entertaining a Black audience would never work.

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    Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Cedric Walker.

    Interview Purpose

    The purpose of this interview is to highlight visionary entrepreneurship, cultural ownership, and perseverance, using Cedric Walker’s founding of Universoul Circus as a case study in building a purpose‑driven business that uplifts community while achieving long‑term success.

    The conversation emphasizes how research, resilience, cultural authenticity, and belief in a vision can overcome skepticism and systemic barriers. It also positions Universoul Circus as more than entertainment—it is a multigenerational cultural institution rooted in Black excellence, inclusion, and family unity.

    Major Themes & Key Takeaways 1. Vision Comes Before Validation

    Cedric Walker shares that the vision for Universoul Circus came in the early 1990s, long before there was widespread belief that a Black‑owned circus centered on performers of color could succeed. Despite strong skepticism from both Black and white investors, Walker trusted the research, the cultural need, and his instinct.

    Key takeaway: Vision must lead—even when validation comes much later.

    2. Research Turns Ideas Into Reality

    Walker did not rely on inspiration alone. He immersed himself in research, studying Black entertainment history, circus traditions, and global performance art. This foundation allowed him to confidently build a unique, sustainable model rather than copying existing formats.

    Key takeaway: Preparation and research are critical when challenging industry norms.

    3. Cultural Authenticity Is a Competitive Advantage

    Universoul Circus was created to be authentically Black, not as a niche product, but as a universal experience rooted in joy, music, athleticism, and storytelling. Walker emphasizes that authenticity—not adaptation—is what attracts diverse audiences.

    Key takeaway: When you are fully yourself, your work transcends culture and geography.

    4. Family‑Centered Entertainment Fills a Real Need

    A defining goal of Universoul Circus is to create an experience where multiple generations can sit together and all feel seen, engaged, and celebrated. Walker intentionally designed the show so grandparents, parents, and children could enjoy the same experience simultaneously.

    Key takeaway: Businesses that bring families together create lasting emotional value.

    5. Evolution Without Losing Identity

    Over time, Universoul Circus evolved—from including animals to becoming a modern, high‑energy, animal‑free production—adapting to changing laws, audience preferences, and cultural shifts. However, Walker notes that the soul of the circus never changed.

    Key takeaway: Successful brands evolve operationally without abandoning their purpose.

    6. Global Talent, Long‑Term Investment

    Walker details how Universoul Circus sources talent from around the world, including Ethiopia, Cuba, China, and the Caribbean. Performers often undergo years of training and development before appearing in the show, reinforcing Universoul’s commitment to excellence and safety.

    Key takeaway: Excellence requires patience, investment, and a long‑term mindset.

    7. Representation Changes Perception

    Universoul Circus intentionally showcases elite Black performers in spaces where they were historically unseen or undervalued. Walker explains that representation is not symbolic—it reshapes belief and possibility for both audiences and performers.

    Key takeaway: Representation is not aesthetic; it is transformative.

    8. Perseverance Creates Legacy

    Celebrating over 30 years of operation, Universoul Circus stands as proof that staying committed to purpose through adversity leads to longevity. Walker sees the circus as a living legacy and a foundation for future cultural innovation.

    Key takeaway: Longevity is built by staying the course when others doubt the destination.

    Notable Quotes

    “Vision comes to you like that—you have to trust it.”

    “Nobody believed it would work, but I felt it in my gut and in my research.”

    “Our goal was to stay authentically Black—that’s what transcends culture.”

    “We wanted something where a grandmother, a father, and a child could all enjoy the same show.”

    “Nothing you see is by chance. Everything has meaning.”

    “We invested years into these performers before they ever hit our stage.”

    “This is more than a circus—it’s a family reunion under the big top.”

    Overall Message

    Cedric Walker’s interview is a masterclass in cultural entrepreneurship. It demonstrates how creativity, courage, and conviction can transform an idea into an enduring institution. His journey with Universoul Circus reinforces that purpose, preparation, and persistence are the true drivers of success—especially when building something that challenges expectations.

    The conversation ultimately affirms that when a business is rooted in authenticity and community, it can achieve both economic sustainability and cultural impact.

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Money Making Conversations Master Class is more than a podcast. It's a front-row seat to the ideas, experiences, and breakthrough moments that inspire success. Hosted by Rushion McDonald, each episode features influential entrepreneurs, business leaders, celebrities, influencers, and nonprofit changemakers sharing the lessons, strategies, and mindset shifts that helped them turn ambition into achievement. The show empowers dreamers, doers, and leaders to think bigger, move smarter, and take action on their goals. As Rushion McDonald often says, "Stop reading other people's success stories and start planning your own."