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Judge Faith Jenkins stops by Money Making Conversations Master Class and shares insight she learned from hosting "Divorce Court" and "Killer Relationship with Faith Jenkins. She gives women and men tools to successfully avoiding pitfalls in long term relationships.We discuss how she found her voice in the entertainment business, what leads killer relationships, and the next steps for her production company.

More on her new book, "Sis Don't Settle"

"Whether you're single, divorced, or in a situationship, Sis, Don't Settle reveals the direction and guidance you need to navigate love and take back your power."

“A modern playbook.”—LA Sentinel

“Listen to Faith. This book is great!”—Steve Harvey, NYT bestselling author of Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man

"Judge Faith Jenkins is the personification of what it means to live by faith! I was honored to marry her and her husband, the legendary Kenny Lattimore, and I know first-hand that she is a testament to never settling for less especially when it comes to love. I have no doubt her story, her wisdom, and her insights will motivate every reader to never settle for less than their worth!"—DeVon Franklin, NYT bestselling author of The Wait

"I was relieved that Sis Don't Settle is not about "catching" a man. This easy, wise, and often funny read is about recognizing your innate worth. Read this book. Love yourself. Then, expect more love to enter your life."—Tina Lifford, author of The Little Book of Big Lies

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Two-time Emmy and Three-NAACP Image Award-winning television producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Charlie Shabazz.  

owner of a Nothing Bundt Cakes franchise in Tucker, Georgia. Charlie's entrepreneurial journey is particularly inspiring because she did not come from a baking background. Instead, she built her career as a CPA and tax professional before transitioning into franchise ownership.

The conversation explores entrepreneurship, overcoming fear, franchising, financial discipline, mentorship, career pivots, and the importance of pursuing opportunities even when they fall outside your comfort zone.

Purpose of the Interview

The purpose of the interview was to:

• Share Charlie Shabazz's entrepreneurial journey.
• Explain the realities of franchise ownership.
• Encourage aspiring entrepreneurs to overcome fear.
• Demonstrate the value of mentorship and preparation.
• Discuss financial discipline and debt management.
• Inspire listeners to pursue opportunities outside their original career path.
• Highlight successful Black women entrepreneurs.

About Charlie Shabazz

Before becoming a franchise owner, Charlie:

• Grew up in Philadelphia.
• Graduated from Temple University.
• Earned a degree in Accounting.
• Obtained a Master's degree in Taxation.
• Became a CPA.
• Built a successful career in tax accounting.

For years, she expected accounting to be her lifelong profession.

As she explained:

"I thought I would do taxes for the rest of my life."

Life ultimately had different plans.

Key Takeaways

1. Fear Should Not Dictate Your Future

One of the strongest themes throughout the interview was overcoming fear.

Charlie left Philadelphia to pursue an opportunity in Atlanta despite uncertainty.

She faced concerns such as:

• Leaving family behind
• Starting over in a new city
• Taking professional risks
• Building a new support system

Yet she moved forward anyway.

Key Point: Courage is not the absence of fear. It is acting despite fear.

2. Mentorship Accelerated Her Growth

When Charlie wanted to learn business taxation, she realized she lacked experience.

Instead of avoiding the challenge, she proactively sought a mentor.

Her approach was simple:

• Contact an experienced CPA.
• Offer to work for free.
• Learn as much as possible.

The mentor accepted.

Charlie credits this experience with helping her gain expertise in business tax preparation.

Key Point: Great mentors can dramatically shorten the learning curve.

3. Success Requires Sacrifice

During the interview, a caller asked how Charlie managed finances while building her career.

Charlie openly discussed financial struggles.

At one point:

• She carried credit card debt.
• Faced financial stress.
• Needed a structured repayment plan.

She created a spreadsheet tracking:

• Every credit card balance
• Monthly payments
• Payoff goals

She followed the plan consistently.

Key Point: Financial success often starts with discipline rather than income.

4. Every Dream Needs a Plan

Charlie emphasized the importance of having a plan.

She explained that dreams alone are not enough.

Success requires:

• Clear goals
• Strategy
• Consistent execution
• Accountability

Her own progress came from deliberate planning rather than luck.

5. Opportunities Often Arrive Unexpectedly

One surprising fact from the interview:

Charlie was not originally planning to own a Nothing Bundt Cakes franchise.

Her original goal was simply:

Bring a bakery to Tucker, Georgia.

She initially explored another bakery franchise opportunity.

When that deal fell apart, she started looking for alternatives.

That search eventually led her to Nothing Bundt Cakes.

Key Point: Sometimes disappointment redirects us toward better opportunities.

6. She Wasn't a Baker

Perhaps the most inspiring part of the conversation was Charlie's admission that she did not come from a baking background.

In fact:

• She was a CPA.
• She never envisioned owning a bakery.
• Baking was not her profession.

Her success came from:

• Business skills
• Leadership
• Determination
• Willingness to learn

Key Point: You do not always have to be the technical expert to own a successful business.

7. Franchising Provides a Proven Blueprint

Charlie explained franchising in simple terms.

A franchise system gives owners access to:

• Established products
• Proven processes
• Operational systems
• Marketing support
• Brand recognition

When franchise founders have already worked through the challenges, new owners can follow an established roadmap.

Key Point: Franchising reduces some startup risk by providing a proven business model.

8. Pivoting Is Part of Entrepreneurship

A recurring lesson throughout the interview was adaptability.

Charlie started with one idea.

That idea evolved.

The franchise she initially considered changed.

New opportunities emerged.

Instead of fighting change, she embraced it.

As she explained, entrepreneurs must sometimes:

• Adjust
• Pivot
• Adapt
• Reevaluate

without losing sight of the larger goal.

9. Black Women Continue to Lead in Entrepreneurship

Rushion asked Charlie why Black women have become one of the fastest-growing groups in entrepreneurship.

She credited:

• Strong mothers
• Community support
• Determination
• High expectations

Charlie noted that many Black women are taught early:

• To pursue education
• To strive for excellence
• To create opportunities

These influences frequently become entrepreneurial strengths.

10. Relationships Matter

One reason Charlie personally delivered products and interacted with customers was her commitment to relationship building.

She believes success comes from:

• Community engagement
• Networking
• Visibility
• Personal connections

She remains active in organizations such as:

• Local Chambers of Commerce
• Business associations
• Community groups

Key Point: Businesses grow through relationships as much as products.

11. Know Your Strengths

As her business expanded, Charlie learned an important leadership lesson:

You cannot do everything yourself.

She identified her strengths as:

• Relationship building
• Community outreach
• Marketing
• Networking

Other team members focus on operational responsibilities.

Key Point: Successful leaders build teams around complementary strengths.

12. Entrepreneurship Is About Solving Problems

Charlie's story demonstrates a powerful entrepreneurial principle:

She did not begin with a perfect business idea.

She began with identifying a need.

She recognized:

• A growing community
• A desirable retail location
• A missing business category

From there she found the right opportunity to fill that gap.

Key Point: Entrepreneurs succeed by solving problems and serving communities.

Lessons From the Caller Interactions

Several audience members called into the show.

Common themes included:

Financial Challenges

Charlie shared practical debt-reduction strategies and emphasized consistency.

Franchising Questions

She explained how franchise systems work and why they can be valuable for entrepreneurs.

Entrepreneurship Fears

Callers discussed uncertainty, risk, and overcoming hesitation when pursuing business ownership.

Community Support

Many listeners expressed appreciation for seeing successful Black-owned businesses highlighted.

Memorable Quotes

Charlie Shabazz

"I can always go back was my mindset, until Atlanta became home."

"I offered to work for free so I could learn."

"You have to sacrifice to get where you want to be."

"The struggle was absolutely real."

"You have to stay committed to the plan."

"Sometimes you have to be open to the pivot."

"Nothing Bundt Cakes wasn't necessarily the plan."

"Know what you're good at and what you're not good at."

Rushion McDonald

"Fear drives so many people from reaching their dreams."

"Everything I've done in my life, I wanted to do."

"Dreams become real when you put them on paper."

"People stop themselves because they think they need to know everything."

Overall Message

Charlie Shabazz's journey proves that entrepreneurial success does not require a traditional path. A CPA with a tax background became the owner of a thriving bakery franchise not because she was a professional baker, but because she embraced opportunity, listened to mentors, stayed disciplined, adapted when plans changed, and refused to let fear dictate her future. Her story demonstrates that with preparation, persistence, and a willingness to pivot, entrepreneurs can build successful businesses even in industries they never originally imagined entering.

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On this week of Money Making Conversations Master Class, the host of Divorce Court & Killer Relationship, Judge Faith Jenkins, talks sex, marriage and more! We discuss her new relationship book, "Sis, Don't Settle: How to Stay Smart in Matters of the Heart." She reveals how the lessons learned hosting "Divorce Court" and "Killer Relationship" influenced themes within the book. She explains how to get out of your own way when it comes to dating.

We also have franchisee and store owner of Nothing Bundt Cakes, Charlie Shabazz. Charlie gives necessary advice on how to start and successfully run a franchise. She shares the hurdles she overcame choosing and starting the fifth store location of Nothing Bundt Cakes, and how she involved the surrounding community.

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Kelly M. Jenrette, a native of Atlanta, Emmy® nominated for her portrayal of Annie in Season 2, Episode 4 of The Handmaid’s Tale. She is currently in production on All American: Homecoming, the spinoff show for The CW's hit show All American. We have a great conversation about pivoting careers to follow your passion; how Clark Atlanta University and other HBCU Alum ensured the shows authenticity; and what it means to her to be compared to "A Different World."

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This week on Money Making Conversations Master Class, I will be joined by author, entertainment executive and celebrity financial coach, Dr. Lynn Richardson, discussing money management and how to hire your kids paying them up to $12,500 and write it off on your taxes. I am also be joined by Emmy-nominated actress Kelly Jenrette, to speak on her starring role on the CW’s new series, "All American: Homecoming.”

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