More Than A Test

More Than A Test

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  • Kirsten Baesler: Shaping the Future of North Dakota's Schools

    In today's episode, our host Laura Glaab engages in an insightful conversation with Kirsten. Baesler, the passionate and driven Superintendent of Public Instruction for North Dakota.

    As we sit down with Kirsten, who has triumphantly stood at the helm of North Dakota's educational leadership for the last 12 years, we'll unpack her commitment to the state's unique collective purchasing power strategy, designed to empower small districts through a unified negotiation approach.

    From her days as a teacher's aide to the awe-inspiring ascent to state superintendent, Kirsten shares her profound journey through the various tiers of educational leadership. She candidly discusses the challenges and successes, detailing the innovative model changes that aim to revitalize the teaching profession, improve educator retention, and foster a more robust learning environment.

    North Dakota's remarkable diversity serves as a backdrop to our conversation, with students from all corners of the world bringing a rich tapestry of languages and experiences to the state's schools.

    Stay tuned, as Kirsten Baesler shares her story, her vision, and her relentless passion for the future of teaching and learning right here on More Than a Test.

    Timestamps 

    00:00 Proud of hometown, 12 years as superintendent.

    04:30 State board composition: elected, appointed, hired roles

    07:15 Elected officials are facing challenges and responsibilities.

    10:48 Meeting with student cabinet and other groups.

    14:06 Technology, diversity, and impactful demonstration in education.

    16:42 Prioritize students, defend decisions, and build a strong team.

    20:52 Professional development is crucial for effective school boards.

    25:21 Leverage technology to address teacher shortage issue.

    28:36 I Fell in love with teaching and embraced change.

    34:54 Finding joy in teaching through student interaction.

    36:53 Student cabinet addresses social, and diversity challenges effectively.

    41:04 Emphasizing involvement in the show, 5 rapid questions.

    43:33 Gratitude for your meaningful presence in conversation.

    Connect with Kirsten Baesler

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstenbaesler/

    Website: https://www.nd.gov/dpi/


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 

    45 min
  • Shaping the Future: Tom Vander Ark on Empowering the Next Generation

    In this episode, we have the privilege of speaking with an influential voice in the world of education, Tom Vander Ark. As the CEO of Getting Smart, Tom brings his rich experience as a former executive director at the Gates Foundation and a public school superintendent to the table, sharing nuances of educational transformation you won't want to miss.

    Tom offers insights into why advanced educational technologies haven't made the expected impact on student outcomes, especially for those in need, and highlights the importance of access, implementation, and leadership in bridging that divide.

    Join us as we explore innovative pathways, the power of AI in education, and how new models of schools like micro-schools are redefining the educational landscape. This is More Than a Test, presented by Amira Learning, where every child's potential to be a reader is our mission. Stay tuned for an enriching dialogue with Tom Vander Ark that pushes the boundaries of traditional education and underscores the collective effort to reshape learning for all students.

    Timestamps

    00:00 King Smart, founded 15 years ago, advocates for education innovation.

    05:12 Life-changing outdoor leadership program inspires lifelong passion.

    08:55 Supportive, invitational leadership fosters personalized, high-quality change.

    10:53 Women demand effective educational products for kids.

    14:39 Schools benefit from operating within networks.

    16:41 Denver example of a successful school district network.

    22:57 Encouraging kids to do meaningful, self-directed work.

    27:09 Using ikigai to guide kids' entrepreneurial solutions.

    29:05 Top K-8 career exploration system in Cone Valley Schools.

    33:00 Limited education research funding led to slow progress.

    38:10 Experienced personal and business failures, and learned lessons.

    40:18 Supported new school development, faced consequences.

    43:30 Denver schools promote teacher innovation and collaboration.

    46:50 The Superintendent created a learning culture through book reviews.

    49:07 Boss encouraged me to join education initiatives.

    34:08 Admires journalists with an impressive turn of phrase, Elon.

    35:22 Book is about Musk's inspiration and impact.

    40:15 Interviewed Dr. Rod Berger and recommended his documentary.

    42:30 AI as self-perpetuating innovation shapes the future.

    46:00 AI's impact on education and professional development.

    51:10 Children's book teaches valuable lessons for all.

    54:48 Educator helped discover authentic public speaking talent.

    Connect with Tom Vander Ark

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomvanderark

    Website: https://www.gettingsmart.com/


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 


    53 min
  • The Art of Storytelling in a Tech-Driven World: Insights from Dr. Berger and Mark Angel

    In this episode, we sit down with the insightful Dr. Rod Berger and the CEO of Amira Learning, Mark Angel.

    Join us as we explore how storytelling transcends mere product features and can create compelling connections that last. We'll reflect on the influence of visionaries like Elon Musk, who inspires us to dream big and tackle global issues. Mark and Dr. Berger will weigh in on the incredible power of storytelling in business and education, discussing its role in uniting people and fostering sustainable practices.

    We'll also dive into the transformation of education with AI's growing influence, and our guests will share how this shift requires a bold and innovative approach. Dr. Berger and Mark will talk about the need for authenticity and balance in our technology-driven world, and they'll reveal their most meaningful lit moments with books that have touched their personal and professional lives.

    So tune in to today's episode of More Than a Test for a journey through storytelling, technology, and the human experiences that enrich our interactions and understanding. Whether you're seeking inspiration, education, or just a good story, there's something here for everyone.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Helping stories breathe, inspiring others to aspire.

    05:07 Approaching conversations with humility and curiosity.

    07:58 Professionals are so polished and hard to challenge.

    12:43 Importance of relatable experiences and human connection.

    14:48 Mark's transparency in leadership is powerful.

    17:48 Focus on mission and goal for success.

    23:32 Storytelling is key to building successful brands.

    27:23 Good storytelling is essential for conveying impactful data.

    29:10 Data's crucial, but stories are powerful.

    34:08 Admires journalists with an impressive turn of phrase, Elon.

    35:22 The Book is about Musk's inspiration and impact.

    40:15 Interviewed Dr. Rod Berger and recommended his documentary.

    42:30 AI as self-perpetuating innovation shapes the future.

    46:00 AI's impact on education and professional development.

    51:10 Children's book teaches valuable lessons for all.

    54:48 Educator helped discover authentic public speaking talent.


    Connect with Dr. Rod Berger

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodbergerpsyd/

    Website: https://www.drrodberger.com/


    Connect with Mark Angel

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-angel-0b6b3b1/


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 

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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD

    58 min
  • Dr. Molly Ness: The Impact of Read-Alouds on Vocabulary, Comprehension, and Reading Skills

    In this episode, we have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Molly Ness, an expert in literacy and education. Dr. Ness shares her insights on the mismatch between the abundance of available texts and the challenge of presenting complex topics in a manner suitable for children. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes the importance of diversity in picture books, the value of untold stories, and the impact of read-alouds on language comprehension, vocabulary, and overall literacy skills. Dr. Ness offers practical advice for educators on planning for read-alouds, drawing from compelling research and her rich experience in the field. Tune in as we explore the transformative power of read-alouds and their essential role in shaping young minds.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Read-aloud benefit language, cognition, and physiological states.

    05:12 Intentional planning for effective reading instruction process.

    08:32 Encourage diverse read-alouds beyond traditional methods.

    11:00 William Hoy, a deaf baseball player's impact.

    13:52 Decline in read alouds at age 9.

    20:25 Scott Paris discussed constrained and unconstrained skills.

    21:27 Remaining resilient and patient during teaching changes.

    27:04 Tough choices ahead for educators and students.

    29:33 Choosing coursework and instructors with transparency and accessibility.

    35:09 Interdisciplinary conversations give hope for literacy impact.

    37:52 Daughter reading "Are You My Mother?" was powerful.

    41:31 Marianne Wolfe's book, a powerful reading experience.

    43:26 Excited to read, life-changing advice, gratitude expressed.

    Connect with Dr. Molly Ness 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/molly-ness-phd-2474b24a/?trk=public_post_comment-text

    Website: https://www.literacyworldwide.org/about-us/our-leadership/molly-ness


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 

    45 min
  • The Humanity of Teaching: Lessons from Kareem Weaver

    In this episode, our host Laura Glaab sits down with the inspiring Kareem Weaver to delve into the profound importance of love in education and its impact on enduring and implementing successful educational practices. We explore Kareem's journey from being a teacher to becoming a principal and his unwavering dedication to helping students succeed. Throughout the conversation, Kareem emphasizes the need for educators to let go of baggage, be vulnerable, and work together to create a culture of honesty and growth. Join us as we uncover the critical role of literacy in achieving equity and access to human rights and challenge the conventional standards of what it means for a child to receive an excellent education. We also discuss the emotional impact on teachers when they realize they could have done better in helping students learn to read, as well as the necessity of humility and accountability in educational leadership. Get ready to be inspired and empowered by the thought-provoking insights and stories shared in this episode!

    Timestamps

    00:00 The Reading League: Key in literacy movement.

    05:32 Navigating criticism in education and its impact.

    14:30 Reckoning with life's center, teaching compassion.

    16:50 Unconditional love, acceptance, and honesty in relationships.

    24:31 Realizing life's preciousness, taking action today.

    27:53 Accessing information is vital for informed citizens.

    33:54 Belief in making a difference despite challenges.

    37:12 Dedicated teachers remember and seek improvement.

    47:29 Partisan concerns but encouraged by educator leadership

    52:15 Prioritizing kids' needs over personal hardships was commendable.

    56:38 Urging for excellence and shedding baggage.

    01:01:58 Influential book featuring Jamaican accent, artistic language.

    01:05:51 Sharing life experiences to help others learn.

    Connect with Kareem Weaver 

    LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/kareem-weaver-1416596/

    Website: https://www.fulcrum-oakland.org/who

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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD

    1 hr 8 min
  • Leading Through Diversity: Education Challenges in Oakland with Dr. Kyla Johnson-Trammell

    In today's episode, our host Laura Glaab engages in an insightful conversation with Dr. Kyla Johnson-Trammell, the superintendent of Oakland Unified School District. Together, they navigate through the complexities of education and leadership, exploring the challenges and opportunities of serving a diverse student population in an ever-changing landscape.

    Throughout the episode, Laura and Dr. Johnson-Trammell discuss the nuanced issues that arise within education, from addressing the needs of socioeconomically disadvantaged students and newcomers to advocating for inclusive leadership and fostering partnerships. Dr. Johnson-Trammell shares her perspective on the need to teach essential skills such as creativity and collaboration to prepare students for the competitive job market, while emphasizing the importance of retaining educators and continuously improving school systems.

    The episode also delves into the personal experiences and challenges faced by Dr. Johnson-Trammell in her role as a superintendent, addressing the emotional toll of leadership, the complexities of financial management, and the necessity of setting boundaries while maintaining a balance between work and family.


    Join us as we explore the thought-provoking insights, experiences, and vision of a dedicated leader who is committed to shaping the future of education in Oakland and beyond.



    Timestamps


    00:00 Diverse dataset influences leadership challenges in education.


    04:35 Addressing costly per pupil needs with diverse support.


    06:27 Partnership with Salesforce has focused on supporting the newcomer population in middle schools. The long-standing, meaningful partnership has allowed for vision development, infrastructure development, and strategic support.


    11:22 Tension rising across the country, cultural impact and evidence of superintendent attrition post-pandemic.


    15:19 Navigating politics in education for effective management.


    17:59 Importance of literacy and numeracy for success.


    22:46 Reconsidering partnership for diverse students’ needs support.


    24:51 Teaching essential skills for future job success.


    29:13 Leadership requires crisis management and continuous improvement.


    31:50 Utilizing diverse advisers, emphasizing time boundaries.


    34:54 Transitioning to CEO required unexpected financial expertise.


    40:10 Multitasking to gather information from everyday conversations.


    43:45 How to support teachers in implementing change.


    45:37 Collaborating with prominent organizations, achieving meaningful community impact.



    Connect with Dr. Kyla Johnson-Trammell

    LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylajohnsontrammell/

    Website: ousd.org


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 


    52 min
  • Angelica Infante Green: The Means to Do It All When Leading Education for a State with Aspirations

    In this episode, we have the honor of sitting down with Angelica Infante-Green, the passionate and resilient state commissioner for Rhode Island. We were able to have the amazing opportunity to explore her remarkable experiences and insights. As a dedicated educator and parent, Infante-Green shares how her personal and professional life intertwine, and how her family, especially her courageous daughter, inspires her to confront challenges with unwavering determination. From her tenure as a school principal in New York City to her transformative role in Providence's education system, Infante-Green’s unwavering commitment to excellence and equity shines through. Join us as we uncover Infante-Green’s compelling story, her unique approach to leadership, and her bold vision for creating an educational landscape where all students can thrive.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Angelica Infante Green's inspiring journey in education.

    05:05 Providence system was broken, disempowering parents and students. Community-led plan implemented after 70-hour meetings.


    07:30 All students must achieve reading proficiency levels based on the "Right to Read Act" which incorporates awareness and mastery of the science of reading. 

    11:41 All students must achieve reading proficiency levels.


    16:04 Population's success essential for district's achievement.


    17:09 Challenges include financial uncertainty, support loss, and staff shortages.


    25:14 Teaching practical English in challenging urban environments.


    27:01 finding fulfillment in impacting lives beyond the classroom.


    31:18 Unexpected love for Rhode Island and commitment.


    35:40 Prioritizing people over systems and structures as a school director.


    40:23 Finding solace in a book during the pandemic, experiencing a sense of comfort and strength, encouraging self-care and resilience.




    Connect with Angelica Infante-Green

    Website: https://ride.ri.gov/


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 

    43 min
  • Successes and Challenges of the PAF Reading Program with Magdalena Zavalia

    In this episode, host Laura Glaab engages in an enriching conversation with the CEO of the PAF reading program, Magdalena Zavalia. Together, they explore the challenges and triumphs of bilingual education, the importance of effective literacy programs for Spanish-speaking students, and the impact of government intervention on education. Zavalia shares her journey from a successful law career to becoming an advocate for empowering teachers and improving reading instruction. Join us as we uncover the crucial role of commitment, long-term support, and culturally responsive teaching methods in shaping successful literacy initiatives. This episode offers a deep dive into the PAF program's expansion in the United States and Argentina, its impact on student outcomes, and the ongoing research and collaboration to further enhance its effectiveness. So sit back, relax, and get ready to discover how education is truly more than just a test.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Teachers in Argentina work tirelessly and face challenges.


    04:28 Teachers appreciate professional development and guidance.


    06:48 Zavalia discusses how they got started at PAF.


    10:35 PAF instruction in schools yields positive results.


    15:27 Praise for impressive results in educational research.


    17:38 Implementing new teaching methods requires commitment and patience.


    21:17 Zavalia discusses how English is opaque, and how Spanish is transparent.


    25:15 Debate on best bilingual education model in US


    28:19 Structured handwriting instruction vital for effective reading.


    31:01 Zavalia discusses their long career that spans many countries.


    33:37 Teachers developed the PAF program to help students.


    43:21 Zavalia discusses how reading a book in their 8th grade shaped their view of the United States.



    Connect with Magdalena Zavalia

    LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/magdalena-zavalia-153330164/

    Website: https://www.pafprogram.com/


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD

    47 min
  • Unveiling the World of Children's Literature with Peter Brown

    In this episode, our host Laura Glaab sits down with the talented author and illustrator Peter Brown to explore his incredible journey from aspiring animator to award-winning children's author. Join us as Brown shares the unexpected success of "Creepy Carrots" and the Horn Book award-winning "Mr. Tiger Goes Wild." Delve into the inspiration behind his popular "Wild Robot" series and learn about his thoughts on technology and AI, the impact of his books on readers, and the emotional experiences shared by teachers and students. 

    Discover the intricacies of crafting children's literature, and gain insights into Brown’s writing process, his personal favorites, and the invaluable advice that has shaped his career. So, grab your favorite book and join us for a captivating conversation about the power of storytelling and creativity.

    Timestamps


    00:00 Author Peter Brown discusses his work in 2023.

    03:27 Thrilling robot wilderness story series resonates widely.

    07:41 Book about survival through kindness and community, with surprising robot behavior.

    14:14 Brown as an art school graduate takes on writing challenges.

    17:03 Both children and teachers enjoy and learn from books.

    25:54 Unexpectedly won Caldecott Honor for Creepy Carrots.

    29:33 Artist discovered passion for storytelling through art.

    33:11 Brown discusses his first book as challenging, but his second book as easier to create.

    35:27 Brown discusses how his character communicates with animals secretly, but how that interplays with his mixed feelings towards zoos.

    37:33 Brown wanted art school, but considered other options like being a naturalist.

    42:16 How “The Hobbit” changed Brown’s life

    Connect with Peter Brown

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-brown-abbab720b/ 

    Website: http://www.peterbrownstudio.com 


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 


    46 min
  • Motivating Adolescents: Respect, Status, and the Power of Mentoring with Ron Berger

    In today's episode, we have a special guest, Ron Berger, joining host Laura Glaab. Ron Berger is a highly respected figure in education, known for his work in student-centered learning and character development. With a wealth of experience, he has served as a teacher, written books on improving teaching and learning, and played a pivotal role in the success of Yale Education (formerly Expeditionary Learning).

    In this conversation, Glaab and Berger delve into the importance of motivation and respect in working with adolescents. They explore the idea that tough love and coddling are not effective approaches, but rather, mentoring with respect and providing opportunities for students' status and respect can lead to remarkable results. Ron Berger also shares insights on exciting projects, such as the national conference where students become keynote speakers and the renowned "Austin's Butterfly" video that showcases the power of peer critique.

    The discussion expands to the future of education, with Berger expressing hope and concern. He believes in the unlimited potential of children but is critical of the focus on accountability and testing.


    Along the way, Berger shares personal moments that have shaped his understanding of education, the value of student work, and the significance of challenging assumptions. He highlights the interconnectedness of academic learning and character development and sheds light on the power of integrating social-emotional learning into all aspects of education.


    This episode is a treasure trove of insights and practical strategies for parents, educators, and anyone passionate about education. Join us as we dive deep into the world of motivation, student-centered learning, and the power of believing in the potential of every child. Stay tuned for a thought-provoking and inspiring conversation with Ron Berger on "More Than a Test"!


    Timestamps


    01:08 COVID set everyone back, disproportionately affecting students.


    07:21 Students have to grapple to grow their brains and change their self-image.


    12:00 Character education & social-emotional learning's impact.


    14:24 Incorporate character skills for improved academic performance.


    19:16 Conversation around giving feedback, student’s self-esteem, and potential vs deficit driven.


    20:03 School leaders should know every student's strengths and weaknesses.


    26:06 Berger discusses teaching in a small rural town where almost everyone was his former student.


    30:09 Teachers must lead by documenting student work.


    33:48 Showing student growth and documenting achievements.


    35:32 Berger discusses fortunate Harvard experience, teaching, writing books, consulting.


    39:52 Investing in kids' potential, not just accountability.


    41:43 Invest in quality materials, practices, and culture.


    49:52 Friend writing book on motivating adolescents. Respect and status are key.


    52:49 Importance of taking medication, parental influence, fear-based approach.


    Connect with Ron Berger

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-berger-69271312/

    Website: https://eleducation.org/


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    About More Than a Test

    Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


    Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0

    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543

    Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/


    About Amira Learning

    Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


    About your Host, Laura Glaab

    Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


    She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


    Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


    Connect with Laura

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/


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    Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning

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    Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD

    56 min

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Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.