In which Drew Ensz returns to the podcast to talk about the end of the complaint against him, what healing looks like in this moment, and what's required of us as leaders.

Listen to our previous conversation with Drew here: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/what-the-hell-is-a-pastor/episodes/The-Prototypical-Pastor-e1l3rhk

Books in this episode: Let This Radicalize You by Kelly Hayes and Mariame Kaba. (That's an affiliate link- if you use it, we'll get some money.)

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