More Than Tracy Turnblad

The Wicked movie has taken the world by storm, so naturally Abby had to discuss its political roots, fat applicability, and body diverse casting with original Broadway cast member Kathy Deitch! They also chat about Kathy's experiences as a fat actor and activist, make the dramaturgical case for casting fat actors in iconic musical theatre roles, and (of course) take the lyrics of Defying Gravity and really hold space with that.

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See Kathy in Elf in Sacramento: https://www.broadwaysacramento.com/production/elf/

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Abby talks with Sarai Cole about the infamous 2007 Eddie Murphy comedy Norbit. For the extra-long version of this episode complete with political hot takes and other tangents, check out our Patreon!

Abby returns to discuss Adrianne and the Castle, a new fantasy romance musical hybrid documentary about a couple who built a castle of love in rural Illinois. She is joined by director Shannon Walsh and lead actress SLee to discuss what the film means for fat representation and honoring Adrianne’s memory. 

See a screening in NYC or LA!

Website: https://adrianneandthecastle.com/

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UUnjIo2sXA

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SLee's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justcallmeslee/

This week Abby and Luz are joined by Cornell philosophy professor and author Kate Manne, whose recent book Unshrinking: How to Fight Fatphobia blew both of their minds! Kate gives her take on the moral philosophy of fatness, how size informs misogyny, lasagna, dogwhistles, sexual fatphobia, Baby Reindeer, and her concept of body reflexivity.

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Abby tackles the second installment of Bridgerton Season 3 with Cortland Jacoby of Punch Drunk Critics. They discuss sex scenes, the importance of hiring fat writers, whether this is the "body positivity season," Jess Brownell's comments to the press, and where Bridgerton might go next.

Cortland's Twitter: https://x.com/portcortlandia

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No full length ep this week due to technical difficulties, but here's a little preview of the catch-up episode that just went out on our Patreon! You can find it in full at our $3 Quirky Best Friend tier (and even if you have no intention of subscribing, just go to our Patreon and appreciate the names of the tiers bc we are so proud of them)!

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Naturally we had to kick off season 5 by discussing the hottest TV show of the moment (in multiple senses of the word, WINK EMOJI) - Bridgerton! Abby and Luz are joined by Deanna Garwol, creator of My Big Fat Bucket List, to discuss the fat wallflower trope, our Bridgerton crushes, what straight men can learn from regency romance, the definition of midsize, and of course the famous carriage scene.

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Deanna's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/decidedlydeanna/

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Abby and Luz return for one last episode of Season 4 before a short break! They discuss their favorite fat main characters and how to be the main character of your own life.

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Abby and Luz are back for the final installment in their Fat Trope Deep Dive series! After some life updates and recent internet scandal discourse, they talk tankinis, disability stigma, The Biggest Loser, American exceptionalism, Melissa McCarthy, postfeminism, and Rachel Hollis's famous tiger stripes.

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Sources we referenced in this episode:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/26/mum-rachel-hollis-inspiring-viral-bikini-body-photo_n_6946218.html

Millard, Jennifer. “Performing Beauty: Dove’s ‘Real Beauty’ Campaign.” Symbolic Interaction, vol. 32, no. 2, 2009, pp. 146–68. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.1525/si.2009.32.2.146. Accessed 11 Apr. 2024.

Taylor, J., Johnston, J., & Whitehead, K. (2016). A Corporation in Feminist Clothing? Young Women Discuss the Dove ‘Real Beauty’ Campaign. Critical Sociology, 42(1), 123-144. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1177/0896920513501355

Murray, D. P. (2013). Branding “Real” Social Change in Dove’s Campaign for Real Beauty. Feminist Media Studies, 13(1), 83–101. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1080/14680777.2011.647963

Meeuf, R. (2016). Class, corpulence, and neoliberal citizenship: Melissa McCarthy on Saturday Night Live. Celebrity Studies, 7(2), 137–153. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1080/19392397.2015.1044758

Hannah Rae Leach of Sleepover Cinema once again joins Abby - this time to discuss the then-wildly-controversial body representation of Lena Dunham as Hannah Horvath in Girls (2012). We also cover Lana Del Rey, the fat face of it all, being honest about internalized fatphobia, glamorizing toxic sex, and why this is a Patrick Wilson fancast.

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Sleepover Cinema: https://evergreenpodcasts.com/sleepover-cinema/

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