Our summary comes from an interview with Philip Jenkins in 2007 titled, “Companions of Life: What Must We learn, and Unlearn?” in Books and Culture (March/April 2007, Volume 13, No. 2, 18-20).

Robert M. Burton, On Being Certain: Believing You Are Right Even When You’re Not (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2008)

Today’s conversation is centered around Bad Religion: How We Became a Nation of Heretics by Ross Douthat.

Today’s conversation is centered around The Back of the Napkin (Expanded Edition): Solving Problems and Selling Ideas with Pictures by Dan Roam

Last week Mike mentioned that Christians think about church history primarily in three frames. In this week’s conversation, we discuss what those frames are and how they inform much of what Christians believe we ought to strive for in “reviving” the church.

Today’s Notes come from Don’t Think of an Elephant!: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate–The Essential Guide for Progressives Paperback – September 1, 2004 by George Lakoff

Mike and I are spending some time going through several books and bringing this content to the listener. These are books many probably won’t read but have value in understanding the times.

Mike and I continue down the rabbit whole of attention, but from a different angle in this conversation. We actually start out discussing tensions and end up overlapping with our last conversation about attention. Tensions are helpful in pulling us beyond ourselves and what we pay attention to, has a certain effect on us.

Today’s conversation is a great doorway into a deep rabbit hole. While Mike and I discuss a recent news article, the conversation touches on many of the ideas Mike has been writing about for years. In this conversation we talk about why it’s important to pay attention and be selective about what we pay attention to.

Continuing the train of thought on the path forward, this conversation ventures into the notion of building community and how to do it as we begin to understand the times we are in.