It's one of the most famous pop rivalries of the 1980s. But was it just media hype or a genuine dislike? We talk to Gavin from 'The Holy Hour - All Cure Podcast' to get to the bottom of it.

George's grandma Nanny Val reacts to a Morrissey song chosen by our Patreon subscribers. We do the ten-question trivia quiz and we have some recommendations - "if you love Morrissey then you'll love this". And we analyse the lyrics of 'You Know I Couldn't Last'.

Join us on Patreon for bonus monthly episodes, access to the members-only WhatsApp chat, to choose Nanny Val's next song and more.

This podcast was produced by Gary at Red Eye.

Matt Koff, an American TV writer and stand-up comedian, joins Chris and George to talk about the role of humour in Morrissey's work.

He writes for The Daily Show, a big show in the US that has some similarities with Have I Got News For You in the UK. But he's also a big Smiths and Morrissey fan.

Is there something inherently funny about Morrissey's high-drama perspective on the world? And in what ways do Trump and Moz share similarities?

As usual, Nanny Val reacts to a track, there's the trivia quiz, we dig into the lyrics of a song and we bring you some "if you love Morrissey then you'll love this" recommendations.

⁠Join us on Patreon⁠ for bonus monthly episodes, full-length interviews (Matt's runs to 40 minutes), access to the members-only WhatsApp chat and more. You'll also get access to full-length archive interviews with people such as Stephen Street and Alain Whyte.

This podcast was produced by ⁠Gary at Red Eye⁠.

This episode was briefly removed from podcast services due to a potential copyright issue. It was originally published on October 31, 2025, and re-uploaded on November 5, 2025.

Matt Koff, an American TV writer and stand-up comedian, joins Chris and George to talk about the role of humour in Morrissey's work.

He writes for The Daily Show, a big show in the US that has some similarities with Have I Got News For You in the UK. But he's also a big Smiths and Morrissey fan.

Is there something inherently funny about Morrissey's high-drama perspective on the world? And in what ways do Trump and Moz share similarities?

As usual, Nanny Val reacts to a track, there's the trivia quiz, we dig into the lyrics of a song and we bring you some "if you love Morrissey then you'll love this" recommendations.

⁠Join us on Patreon⁠ for bonus monthly episodes, full-length interviews (Matt's runs to 40 minutes), access to the members-only WhatsApp chat and more. You'll also get full-length archive interviews with people such as Stephen Street and Alain Whyte.

This podcast was produced by ⁠Gary at Red Eye⁠.

We've got a sneak peek at Mike Joyce's new book 'The Drums'. It's a warm and joyous recollection of his time in The Smiths. Naturally, you might be wondering about the Morrissey references. He is mentioned more than 200 times and hosts Chris and George have picked six of the best ones to bring to you.

This is an audio-only bonus episode. We'll be back in the video studio soon with a great guest from the world of TV comedy.

When Morrissey met Dana Gillespie, he told her that her cover of 'Spent The Day in Bed' was better than his original. In a fascinating interview with Dana, she tells us about meeting Moz at a London hotel, her friendship with David Bowie and how she feels about today's cancel culture.

Nanny Val is back to react to 'In The Future When All's Well' and the lads analyse the lyrics of 'I'm The End of The Family Line'. We have some 'If You Love Morrissey Then You'll Love This' recommendations and, of course, a couple of lovely bottles of wine.

To access the full interview with Dana and our bonus 'Chris and George Off-Mic' episode, join us on Patreon.

Thank you our producer Gary at Red Eye. Check out his website to take your podcast to the next level.

In this month's episode we ask if it's time to un-cancel Morrissey - and whether he was ever cancelled at all. The zeitgeist certainly seems to be moving in that direction and we discuss whether Moz's third act might just be the most triumphant of all.

As always, George's grandma Nanny Val is back, and this time she reacts to 'Sunny'. George questions Chris in the ten-question trivia quiz and we share some things that "if you love Morrissey then you'll love this".

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Join us on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/MorrisseyandWine

Thank you so much to Gary at www.redeye.co.uk for turning this podcast into something decent. Get in touch with him if you want to take your podcast to the next level.

This time we interview Mark Nevin, who wrote the vast majority of Morrissey's 1990s album Kill Uncle. He gives a fascinating insight into that time in Moz's career and the strange process of writing music with someone so elusive and aloof.

Nanny Val is back and this time she reacts to You Have Killed Me. The trivia quiz returns, with a twist, and George doesn't do so well. And of course we have some "if you love Morrissey then you'll love this" recommendations.

Join us on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/MorrisseyandWine

We're having some technical difficulties with the www.morrisseymerch.com website so if you would like to order one of the T-shirts just email us at [email protected] or send us a DM on our social media accounts.

The wines we enjoyed were as follows:

Chosen by Majestic Sauvignon Blanc 2023, Marlborough - https://www.majestic.co.uk/wines/chosen-by-majestic-sauvignon-b-37585

Chosen by Majestic Primitivo 2022/24, Puglia - https://www.majestic.co.uk/wines/chosen-by-maj-primitivo-73877

Thank you so much to Gary at www.redeye.co.uk for turning this podcast into something decent. Get in touch with him if you want to take your podcast to the next level.

In this special edition, Chris and George present Morrissey and Wine in front of a live audience at the Star & Garter in Manchester. Nanny Val joins us on stage to react to I Know It's Over by The Smiths, we do the ten-question trivia quiz and the boys analyse the lyrics of Spent The Day In Bed - plus some "if you love Morrissey then you'll love this" recommendations.

Get the full effect and watch the video version on YouTube or Spotify.

Join us on Patreon for bonus episodes, the chance to choose Nanny Val's next song and entry to the members-only WhatsApp chat with dozens of other die-hard fans. https://www.patreon.com/c/MorrisseyandWine

Get in touch with us at [email protected]. Godspeed!

Chris and George chat to Danny Marsh, the manager of the Star & Garter, the home of the world-famous Morrissey Smiths Disco in Manchester. And, for once, the future is looking bright for the venue.

Nanny Val reacts to the song 'When You Open Your Legs'. The ten-question trivia quiz is back. And the boys examine the lyrics of 'We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful'. Plus, as always, we have some 'if you love Morrissey then you'll love this' recommendations.

Shop a selection of unique Smiths and Morrissey T-shirts at www.morrisseymerch.com.

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Chris and George are joined by Andrew Paresi, Morrissey’s drummer in the very early solo years, across Viva Hate, Bona Drag and Kill Uncle, when the singer’s identity as a standalone artist was first cemented. He tells us about the moment he knew he’d been fired, his immediate reaction to the lyrics of ‘November Spawned A Monster’ and how he believes Moz predicted the politics and cancel culture we live through today in 2025. 

Nanny Val, George's grandma, is back to react to another track, as suggested by our Patreon subscribers. The ten-question quiz returns and this time it’s Chris putting George in the hot seat. We analyse the lyrics of ‘What Kind Of People Live In These Houses’ and we bring you a couple of “if you love Morrissey then you’ll love this” recommendations.

Shop a selection of unique Smiths and Morrissey T-shirts at www.morrisseymerch.com.

And get access to full, unedited interviews, the members-only WhatsApp chat and more by signing up to our Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/c/MorrisseyandWine).

Production by www.redeye.co.uk. Contact: [email protected]