Mother Nature Will Kill You

Haley shares with us her big exciting news and then Jillian dives on in to the worst buddy trip ever - filled with mayhem, missing people, improvised flame throwers, and forehead worms. This story follows Yossi Ghinsberg and his friends as they go on a treasure quest into the Bolivian Amazon.

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Haley and Jillian give new listeners an introduction to their madness with lots of fish and science talk, and then Jillian gets into the stories of three prehistoric humans who experienced survival throughout their everyday lives. Haley also talks about the White Sands Pupfish during Conservation Corner.

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⁠Fossilized Footprints⁠, White Sands National Park

First Americans, Glenn Hodges, National Geographic, January 2015

⁠Naia, Hoya Negro⁠

⁠Ancient bones reveal girl's tough life in early Americas,⁠ Traci Watson, Nature

Fossilized Footprints Found in New Mexico Track Traveler With Toddler in Tow, Livia Gershon, Smithsonian Magazine

Bennet et al. 2020. Walking in mud: Remarkable Pleistocene human pathways from White Sands National Park (New Mexico). Science. Volume 249.

White Sands Pupfish, White Sands National Park

Jillian tells the tale of the "lost" Lykov Family and their decades of survival in the isolated Siberian wilderness with no outside human contact, and Jillian and Haley go on many tangents on subjects such as the cordyceps fungus, gun rights, shrimp disease, and bats in the attic.

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For 40 years, This Russian Family Was Cut Off From All Human Contact, Unaware of WWII, Mike Dash, Smithsonian Magazine

Lost in Time: The Incredible Story of the Lykov Family of the Siberian Wilderness, James R. Coffey, Wilderness Defined

Meet the Lykov Family That Survived Alone in the Siberian Wilderness For 42 Years, John Kuroski, All That's Interesting

Meet the Last Lykov, John Martin, Vice Magazine

Taiga, National Geographic

"Zombie" viruses are thawing in melting permafrost because of climate change, Michael Birnbaum and Ellen Francis, The Washington Post

Jillian and Haley dive deep, deep down into the heartbreaking and terrifying story of Deon Dreyer, Dave Shaw, and Don Shirley, and their dives in Bushman's Hole, the third deepest water filled cave in the world.  

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Where No One Should Go, Don Shirley, Glynn Washington, and Julia Dewitt, NPR

Raising the Dead, Tim Zimmerman, Outside Magazine

Pickersgill’s Reed Frog, Hyperolius pickersgilli, Amphibian Survival Alliance 

Haley and Jillian welcome special guest Ethan Swinford, and the three talk all things Great Lakes with the tragedy of the SS Kamloops and the all-to-real ghost story of Old Whitey, the lone crewman left behind. 

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Isle Royale, SS Kamloops, National Park Service

Meet Old Whitey, the Preserved Corpse of The SS Kamloops, Lake Superior’s Most Haunted Shipwreck, Greg Newkirk, Week in Weird

Old Whitey: The Haunted Corpse of the SS Kamloops, Paranormal Catalog

“Old Whitey” Continues To Haunt Lake Superior Divers, Jojo Girard, 98.7 FGR Grand Rapids

Fatal Diving Accident at Isle Royale; Kamloops Wreck Temporarily Closed, National Park Service, Lake Superior Magazine

Lake Superior, Isle Royale National Park, Adipocere, Wikipedia 

Great Lakes Conservation Coalition

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How to Help Turkey, Syria: Relief efforts ongoing after more earthquakes rock the region, Orlando Mayorquin, USA Today

Welcome back to the meandering conversations of Haley and Jillian after their long hiatus.  Today, Jillian talks about the scandalous, salacious, and sordid tale of the Floreana Affair and Haley talks blue footed boobies.

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The Galapagos Affair - The Unbelievable True Story Behind the Movie, Happy Gringo

The Mysterious Murder That Rocked The Galapagos Islands, Nikki Vargas, Culture Trip

The Galapagos Affair: Satan Came To Eden, 2013, Streaming on Amazon

The Floreana Affair; Murder in Paradise, Dark Histories Podcast

Blue-Footed Booby, National Geographic

After meandering through topics such as holiday adventures and the big winter storm, Jillian and Haley get down to the roots of the podcast with a special story for episode 50.  Jillian tells the story of the Chilean Mine Disaster of 2010, and of the thirty three miners trapped in it's depths.  Also, Jillian's sleep paralysis makes a shocking comeback, tune in to find out how. 

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Chile Mine Rescue of 2010, Atacama Desert, Encyclopedia Britannica 

The Incredible Story of Chilean Miners Rescued From The “Deep Down Dark’, Maureen Corrigan, NPR

Buried Alive - Chile Mine Rescue, Naked Science

Merry Xmas y'all and Happy Holidays! Jillian and Haley delve into the impossible survivor tale of mountaineers Joe Simpson and Simon Yates and their unbelievable adventure in the Andes. Then Haley talks about Andean Condors for conservation corner. 

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Touching the Void, Joe Simpson

Andean Condor, National Geographic 

Jillian and Haley delve into the unbelievable story of Jill Heinerth, a cave diver who became one of the first (and only) people do dive an ice cave in the interior of an iceberg.  Then Haley talks about emperor penguins and Jillian talks about her trip to Big Bend National Park and her potentially-extraterrestrial experience in Marfa.

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‘The Cave Tried to Keep Us’: The First-Ever Dive Inside An Iceberg, Jill Heinerth and Matthew Stock, WBUR (Boston’s NPR station)

Cave Diver Risks All to Explore Places ‘Where Nobody Has Ever Been’, Dave Davies, NPR

Iceberg, Iceberg B-15, Wikipedia 

Antarctica Ice Island Expedition Documentary, National Geographic

Jillian and Haley bring a Happy Thanksgiving to you with the story of Ryan Osman's run-in with quicksand in Zion National Park.  Haley then talks about the conservation and ecology of the Mexican Spotted Owl in a new segment highlight the vulnerable and endangered species that live in the dangerous habitats we talk about - we are biologists after all. 

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I Was Trapped in Quicksand for 12 Hours in a Blizzard, Ryan Osmun and Jason Daley, Outside Online

Arizona hiker rescued from quicksand in Zion National Park Tells Full Story, 12 News

Quicksand traps Zion hiker in freezing creek for 10 hours, Mike Moffitt, SFGATE

They were hiking in the wilderness with no cell service. Then they fell into quicksand, Kayla Epstein, The Washington Post

Can quicksand really suck you to your death? Claudia Hammond, BBC

Zion National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

Mexican Spotted Owl (U.S. National Park Service)