In this episode, join CIR’s Executive Director, Natalie Perkins, as she shares the challenges of running a nonprofit and her journey as a mother of a transgender daughter. Our host, Crystal Cardenas, opens up conversations about parenting struggles, the importance of open communication, and the value of learning and growing from mistakes. Please listen to this extra personal and touching episode.

Are you inspired by this episode? Donate Directly to the ALLY For Parents Project for this Giving Tuesday! With your donation, we will be able to create educational content to guide parents and guardians with supporting their LGBTQ+ children. Donate at cirinc.org/donate.

To access this episode's transcript, visit our website at cirinc.org/podcast/. 

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