If you're tired of feeling like every client conversation starts with "I just want to lose 15 pounds," this episode will help you go deeper without dismissing your client’s desires.

Gillian walks you through how to:

• Start with empathy instead of resistance

• Use open-ended + hypothetical questions to explore what’s underneath aesthetic goals

• Create space for conversations that highlight confidence, joy, energy, and freedom, not just the number on the scale

She also shares her own approach to content and discovery calls that attract clients already interested in deeper change.

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