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What is the difference between motivation and mindset? In this episode we talk about the difference between the two and the more impactful.
www.successbeyondgameday.com
[00:05] Ryan: Welcome to shift happens athlete mindset hacks where we talk everything mindset development, taking lessons from the college and pro athletes, coaches and teams that we get to work alongside. I'm Ryan Schachner. This is Cheney Robinson. And today we're talking about the difference between mindset and motivation because I think a lot of times cheney, they get lumped together and to me they're, it's extreme. They're extremely polar opposites almost.
[00:36] Cheney : Then as we, as preparing, doing research for this, I pulled, pulled this up and there were two off of psychology today. I'm gonna read these to you might so again, psychology today. So hearing you, you know, this is legit. Mindset is a belief that orients the way we handle situations. Our mindsets help us spot opportunities, but they can also trap us in self defeating cycles. Now, motivation, same thing, psychology of the day. Motivation, that is the desire to act in a service of a goal is the crucial element in setting and attaining our objectives. So motivation is one of the driving forces behind human behavior. So I think that they are there. They are opposites, but I think there is some congruency there, too. You know, we talk about, you talk about the experience drives beliefs and beliefs drive behavior. So I think the mindset is not, never necessarily overarching, but I think there is not hand in glove by any means, but it's, there's definitely a correlation there, a connection.
[01:49] Ryan: Yeah, they're definitely connected. And I think where I went with that comment is, you know, talking to some of the coaches in some of the athletic departments, and they get early in the season, you see guys like Eric Thomas or inky Johnson go and talk to the team and the coaches thinking that, hey, that is mindset development and et. Eric Thomas is the number one motivational speaker in the world, right? Yeah. Yeah, they're motivational speakers, right? Yep. Now, I think they probably do a little bit deeper just because of, you know, the content, their experiences, their delivery, all of that. But, but it gets the team excited to go conquer the season, right? It gets the team, you know, listening to the inky Johnson clips, it's a. And he gets the team excited to be a Tennessee volunteer, to give it all to their teammates, you know, or whoever he's, you know, whatever team he's talking to. And it's that getting hyped, right. It's getting pumped up, and it's trying to get some of the perspective on what the end goal or what the team's goals are. To me, that's motivation, and that goes on a lot right. And I think you really both. But mindset and mindset development is training the individual how to think differently in order to maintain high performance or even go beyond what their current ceiling is from a, you know, athletic form or just personal performance level.
[03:51] Cheney : Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And again, I think there's. Would there been a connection? And obviously there is. You talk about there being polar opposites, and they are, and. But I think mindset is that overarching umbrella, and that's what we've got to develop, and then inherently, through that, then we can figure out what it is that motivates you. Right. So is it. Is it inky Johnson? Is it et visit? Is it kirby smart? Is it, you know, hypo. Whoever it is that now is giving you that pregame speech that is motivating, that's getting you pumped and ready to go. To go perform at a high level. So, yeah, it's. It's.
[04:32] Ryan: Yeah, the motivation is different. Yeah. The motivation is getting you in that zone. Right. Yeah. Where, you know, I look at a. A guy like JJ Watt, who, his pre game routine took him from being this fun loving guy to this animal. Right. And that it could be his playlist, it could be whatever it was took him and got him in that zone so that he could go out and compete in an extremely violent sport. Yeah. Whereas the mindset component is, hey, something happens, how am I going to react? How am I getting prepared the week leading up to the game so that I can get in that zone or be better prepared to get in that zone, that I can make it, you know, pass this contract into the next contract so that I can perform through this injury or these aches and these pains. It's that whole training and rewiring of how I'm going to process information in order to, again, achieve or even surpass what my performance, athletic performance ceiling is.
[06:09] Cheney : And it's believing, hey, I'm the right guy and the right. I'm the right guy in the right spot at the right time, and I'm going to perform at a high level. Chipper Jones used to talk about it, too. He said, every time I ran on the field, I believed, he said, and then he prepped it. I may not have been the best, but I believed I was the best on the field every time I ran on the field. And there. And that comes from a mindset that's. That is 100% mindset.
[06:36] Ryan: Yep. Absolutely. All right. Mindset different than motivation. My mindset training is different than a motivational speaker. It takes a little bit of time, and it takes the right process. So you got to trust the process. It hits on a couple of main things, which I'm sure we'll get into at a later podcast. But mindset different than motivation. Thanks again for joining us on shift happens. I'm Ryan. This is Cheney. Until next time.
By Ryan Schachtner & Cheney RobinsonWhat is the difference between motivation and mindset? In this episode we talk about the difference between the two and the more impactful.
www.successbeyondgameday.com
[00:05] Ryan: Welcome to shift happens athlete mindset hacks where we talk everything mindset development, taking lessons from the college and pro athletes, coaches and teams that we get to work alongside. I'm Ryan Schachner. This is Cheney Robinson. And today we're talking about the difference between mindset and motivation because I think a lot of times cheney, they get lumped together and to me they're, it's extreme. They're extremely polar opposites almost.
[00:36] Cheney : Then as we, as preparing, doing research for this, I pulled, pulled this up and there were two off of psychology today. I'm gonna read these to you might so again, psychology today. So hearing you, you know, this is legit. Mindset is a belief that orients the way we handle situations. Our mindsets help us spot opportunities, but they can also trap us in self defeating cycles. Now, motivation, same thing, psychology of the day. Motivation, that is the desire to act in a service of a goal is the crucial element in setting and attaining our objectives. So motivation is one of the driving forces behind human behavior. So I think that they are there. They are opposites, but I think there is some congruency there, too. You know, we talk about, you talk about the experience drives beliefs and beliefs drive behavior. So I think the mindset is not, never necessarily overarching, but I think there is not hand in glove by any means, but it's, there's definitely a correlation there, a connection.
[01:49] Ryan: Yeah, they're definitely connected. And I think where I went with that comment is, you know, talking to some of the coaches in some of the athletic departments, and they get early in the season, you see guys like Eric Thomas or inky Johnson go and talk to the team and the coaches thinking that, hey, that is mindset development and et. Eric Thomas is the number one motivational speaker in the world, right? Yeah. Yeah, they're motivational speakers, right? Yep. Now, I think they probably do a little bit deeper just because of, you know, the content, their experiences, their delivery, all of that. But, but it gets the team excited to go conquer the season, right? It gets the team, you know, listening to the inky Johnson clips, it's a. And he gets the team excited to be a Tennessee volunteer, to give it all to their teammates, you know, or whoever he's, you know, whatever team he's talking to. And it's that getting hyped, right. It's getting pumped up, and it's trying to get some of the perspective on what the end goal or what the team's goals are. To me, that's motivation, and that goes on a lot right. And I think you really both. But mindset and mindset development is training the individual how to think differently in order to maintain high performance or even go beyond what their current ceiling is from a, you know, athletic form or just personal performance level.
[03:51] Cheney : Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And again, I think there's. Would there been a connection? And obviously there is. You talk about there being polar opposites, and they are, and. But I think mindset is that overarching umbrella, and that's what we've got to develop, and then inherently, through that, then we can figure out what it is that motivates you. Right. So is it. Is it inky Johnson? Is it et visit? Is it kirby smart? Is it, you know, hypo. Whoever it is that now is giving you that pregame speech that is motivating, that's getting you pumped and ready to go. To go perform at a high level. So, yeah, it's. It's.
[04:32] Ryan: Yeah, the motivation is different. Yeah. The motivation is getting you in that zone. Right. Yeah. Where, you know, I look at a. A guy like JJ Watt, who, his pre game routine took him from being this fun loving guy to this animal. Right. And that it could be his playlist, it could be whatever it was took him and got him in that zone so that he could go out and compete in an extremely violent sport. Yeah. Whereas the mindset component is, hey, something happens, how am I going to react? How am I getting prepared the week leading up to the game so that I can get in that zone or be better prepared to get in that zone, that I can make it, you know, pass this contract into the next contract so that I can perform through this injury or these aches and these pains. It's that whole training and rewiring of how I'm going to process information in order to, again, achieve or even surpass what my performance, athletic performance ceiling is.
[06:09] Cheney : And it's believing, hey, I'm the right guy and the right. I'm the right guy in the right spot at the right time, and I'm going to perform at a high level. Chipper Jones used to talk about it, too. He said, every time I ran on the field, I believed, he said, and then he prepped it. I may not have been the best, but I believed I was the best on the field every time I ran on the field. And there. And that comes from a mindset that's. That is 100% mindset.
[06:36] Ryan: Yep. Absolutely. All right. Mindset different than motivation. My mindset training is different than a motivational speaker. It takes a little bit of time, and it takes the right process. So you got to trust the process. It hits on a couple of main things, which I'm sure we'll get into at a later podcast. But mindset different than motivation. Thanks again for joining us on shift happens. I'm Ryan. This is Cheney. Until next time.