In this episode, we sit down with Susan Purvis to explore leadership through the lens of search and rescue, wilderness medicine, and personal transformation. Susan shares her story of walking away from a career as a gold exploration geologist to pursue a life of saving lives, in the backcountry and in herself.

We discuss how systems thinking simplifies complexity, whether in emergency medicine or leadership. Susan breaks down the critical systems—circulatory, respiratory, and nervous—and shows how understanding breakdowns in these systems helped her make clear, life-or-death decisions. Together, we explore how these lessons apply to life and leadership: knowing when to intervene, when to seek help, and how to recognize early signs that something essential is failing.

Susan opens up about the emotional toll of leadership, the magnetism and conflict of relationships, and the discipline it takes to care for yourself before leading others. From the philosophy of truth to the practice of self-leadership, this conversation is both practical and deeply reflective.

This episode is for leaders navigating complexity, those standing at a personal crossroads, or anyone seeking clarity in the face of uncertainty.

Move Mountains is a leadership development company based in Incline Village, Nevada. They work with individuals and teams to build real self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and communication skills that translate directly into how people show up at work and in life. Using coaching, immersive experiences, and their Mindful Leadership Map—a practical framework grounded in assessment and reflection—they help people take action with greater clarity, intention, and impact.

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In this episode, we sit down with Shelby Hart to explore the deeper side of leadership, one rooted in compassion, courage, and self-awareness. Shelby shares her personal journey from ICU trauma nurse to leadership facilitator, reflecting on the moments that reshaped her understanding of healing, purpose, and presence.

We talk about how unprocessed emotion can surface in the body, how belief systems form through crisis, and why authentic leadership starts with knowing yourself, even when it’s uncomfortable. Shelby opens up about her decision to leave medicine after 20 years, and how she found new purpose helping leaders grow through challenge instead of avoid it.

This conversation is raw, human, and timely for anyone standing at the edge of personal change or organizational evolution.

Move Mountains is a leadership development company based in Incline Village, Nevada. They work with individuals and teams to build real self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and communication skills that translate directly into how people show up at work and in life. Using coaching, immersive experiences, and their Mindful Leadership Map—a practical framework grounded in assessment and reflection—they help people take action with greater clarity, intention, and impact.

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Learn more at www.movemountains.com

Welcome back to Messy Adventures in Mindful Leadership with Charlie White. Today, we're joined by Lizzie Harbin, who offers invaluable insights on leading amidst life's unpredictability.

Lizzie emphasizes the importance of embracing life's messiness as a leader. From giving meaningful feedback to fostering open communication, she underscores the need for authenticity and resilience.

She encourages leaders to celebrate challenges with humor and humility, creating an environment where innovation thrives. Lizzie also highlights the value of accepting failure as part of personal growth.

For Lizzie, leadership means being comfortable with uncertainties and focusing on service to others. By doing inner work and embracing their own imperfections, leaders can better support their teams.

Join us for more inspiring conversations on Messy Adventures in Mindful Leadership. Stay tuned for insights that transform how you lead.

Yosi Amram joins host Charlie White for an enlivening conversation about converging leadership with spiritual intelligence in episode of 49 of 'Messy Adventures in Leadership.'

Yosi has coached over a hundred CEOs in the past twenty years. Serving as both a confidant and coach, he offers a sounding board for CEOs, providing guidance and coaching on building and managing companies, teams, investors, and boards. Yosi supports CEOs in developing more inspirational leadership, enhancing their leadership power by tapping into and nurturing their purpose, passion, and authentic presence, and creating deeper meaning through their work.

"My mission is to awaken greater spiritual intelligence in myself and the world. And my hope is that twenty years from now spiritual intelligence is as broadly permeating our culture as emotional intelligence." 

Yosi's latest book 'Spiritual Intelligent Leadership' is now available. 

Spiritual Intelligence (SI) is our ability to draw on and embody qualities from the world’s wisdom and spiritual traditions that have been shown to enhance functioning and wellbeing. To learn more about my research into Spiritual Intelligence and to receive your free Spiritual Intelligence profile highlighting your strengths, areas for growth, and curated tips for development, click here.

For more on Yosi check out www.yosiamram.net and his YouTube channel: Awakening Spiritual Intelligence. 

Join Move Mountains Charlie White and Chris Yount as they discuss the struggles and growth of running a business. Chris is all too familiar with leading teams, guiding entrepreneurs, and finding self-actualization through serving others and leadership development.

His advice for those in business dealing with the ups and downs:

"Do your best to find a peer group where you can share your struggles that are unique to you."

After losing her husband suddenly at 30 years old with a 1-year-old son and pregnant, Amanda Bauer Frisch has navigated life with incredible grace.

So, what is a Participation Trophy? Amanda emphasizes that we need to redefine what a participation trophy really is. First place isn't the same as showing up, but we still need to recognize that as a society, most people are dealing with silent battles that we don't see. It's important to acknowledge and applaud their participation.

"When I lost my husband, I needed people to tell me to keep going and to keep trying."

Join Move Mountains and Jane Burkhart and Lizzie Harbin. This jaw-dropping and inspiring conversation with Mother and daughter is full of hope and empowerment. Listen as they share their story in a candid conversation about their experience of domestic abuse and their journey and inspiration in healing.

This podcast has inspired Move Mountains to partner with the local family advocacy organization Sierra Community House, which helps families in Truckee and North Lake Tahoe. Join us on May 11th at Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe to meet Jane and Lizzie as they share their inspiring strength and story. 

All are welcome to come listen and share in this collective yet difficult healing journey. Enjoy the beautiful view of Lake Tahoe from the Lakeshore Ballroom at the Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe Resort and Spa. Join us from 1:30 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. on Saturday, May 11.

Contact the Move Mountains Team for more information on how to get involved.

In this podcast, Rosie Hackett shares her experience as a mindful leader and her recovery journey. She emphasizes her love for coaching and teaching, offering both services to individuals looking to enhance their lives. The Move Mountains Atlas Hub is a platform where Rosie will be sharing her wisdom and skills to help others improve their lives.

Charlie White and Rosie discuss the importance of self-coaching and how it can help individuals improve their lives. Rosie emphasizes the need to pay attention to one's thoughts, emotions, and physical reactions and how teaching tools can be helpful in this process. She highlights the role of a coach in helping individuals find their own thoughts and stories, but also encourages self-coaching for long-term growth and personal development.

Rosie's energy is contagious, and she has some world-class stories. Join Rosie starting May 1st for 3 months for her transforming group coaching cohort, 'Live the life you love.'

In this episode of 'Messy Adventures in Leadership,' Charlie White and Amanda Simonton dive into the influence of work on personal life and vice versa, which is more complex than it may seem. Influential components of your work world, such as people and experiences, can drastically influence your free time activities. Serving in the Army National Guard for six and a half years provided Amanda with a helpful perspective on sacrifice, determination, and resiliency.

Amanda Simonton is a professional development expert and co-leads Revolution Retreat, a holistic wellness project. She spends time in a corporate setting, running wellness and professional development programs for a technology company. She also co-leads Revolution Retreat, which is a personal project focused on holistic wellness and inclusive retreats. Amanda discusses the limitations of the work-life balance dichotomy and the importance of viewing all aspects of life as overlapping and interconnected.

Join Charlie White and Brian Williams in this incredible podcast focused on Kindness. Brian Williams is the founder of Think Kindness, a nonprofit organization that aims to inspire positive change by conducting massive kindness takeovers in schools, communities, and corporations. The organization was founded in 2009 after Brian's mother asked him to conduct an Anti-Bullying Assembly at her school, which led to the idea of focusing on kindness instead of negativity. Think Kindness began with a challenge to document 5,000 random acts of kindness in just 15 days, which inspired other schools to join in and led to the organization's growth.

“In the workplace, kindness and promoting a healthy environment can lead to increased trust, collaboration, and engagement among employees. This results in higher productivity, better conflict resolution, improved well-being, increased retention, and overall better outcomes for the organization.”