Navigating the Future: David Ma on AI and Education

In this episode of Move Mountains, host Charlie White converses with David Ma, CEO of Hope Street Group and former Head of Product for Jobs at Facebook. They delve into David’s journey from leading a global job search platform to innovating AI-powered tools that aid high school students and teachers in preparing for the future. David shares heartfelt stories of individuals affected by the job market, his disillusionment with merely matching workers to jobs, and his passion for ensuring students graduate high school future-ready. They discuss the role of AI in career exploration, the importance of cultural values within organizations, and the ultimate aim of creating a more hopeful and prosperous future for all.

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00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

01:32 David Ma's Journey to Hope Street Group

02:00 Challenges and Realizations at Facebook

03:22 Transition to Remote Work and Burnout

04:57 Discovering Hope Street Group

05:52 The Role of AI in Education

08:09 AI's Potential and Limitations

19:48 Real-Life Impact Stories

28:10 Overcoming Awkward Moments in Networking

28:56 Real-World Relevancy in Education

30:36 Challenges in Coordinating Internships

33:30 The Role of Teachers and Mentors

37:39 AI's Impact on Education and Ethics

44:18 Building a Strong Organizational Culture

47:40 Leadership and Values in Practice

54:22 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

What does it mean to lead from the heart in a world that often prioritizes numbers over people?

In this episode, business leader and entrepreneur Paulina Riedler joins us to share how she’s built teams, navigated seasons of change, and defined freedom on her own terms. From fostering emotional safety at work to recognizing that freedom can mean different things at different life stages, Paulina’s perspective is rooted in empathy, intuition, and courage.

We talk about how to have honest conversations that dissolve false narratives, the danger of comparison, and why human connection will always matter more than AI efficiency. Paulina also reflects on her personal journey balancing entrepreneurship with motherhood, and how leadership is really about the way we make people feel.

This conversation will help you:

• Build trust by leading with compassion and curiosity

• Redefine freedom for the season of life you’re in

• Communicate openly to prevent misunderstandings

• Avoid the comparison trap and honor your unique path

• Keep human connection at the center of your leadership

Move Mountains is a leadership development company based in Incline Village, Nevada. We help individuals and teams cultivate self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and intentional action using our Mindful Leadership Map.

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What does running 135 miles across Death Valley in 113°F heat teach you about life and leadership?

In this episode, ultra runner, coach, and motivational speaker Adam Kimble joins us just one week after placing 4th in the Badwater 135—one of the toughest footraces on earth. Adam opens up about his journey through extreme endurance, the mindset required to endure prolonged suffering, and how those lessons translate directly to leadership and everyday life.

We talk about the moments that test your character, the discipline it takes to prepare for the unimaginable, and why love—not anger—is the ultimate fuel. Adam also shares how his approach to focus, energy management, and kindness has shaped his racing, his relationships, and his role as a father.

This conversation is about more than running. It’s about learning to:

• Focus on the right things when life feels overwhelming

• Keep moving forward when your mind says you’re done

• Lead by example even when you’re depleted

• Inspire others quietly through the way you show up

Whether you’re chasing a finish line, a personal goal, or clarity in leadership, Adam’s story is a reminder that we all have more in the tank than we think.

Move Mountains is a leadership development company based in Incline Village, Nevada. We help individuals and teams cultivate self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and intentional action using our Mindful Leadership Map.

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In this episode, we sit down with Susan Purvis to explore leadership through the lens of search and rescue, wilderness medicine, and personal transformation. Susan shares her story of walking away from a career as a gold exploration geologist to pursue a life of saving lives, in the backcountry and in herself.

We discuss how systems thinking simplifies complexity, whether in emergency medicine or leadership. Susan breaks down the critical systems—circulatory, respiratory, and nervous—and shows how understanding breakdowns in these systems helped her make clear, life-or-death decisions. Together, we explore how these lessons apply to life and leadership: knowing when to intervene, when to seek help, and how to recognize early signs that something essential is failing.

Susan opens up about the emotional toll of leadership, the magnetism and conflict of relationships, and the discipline it takes to care for yourself before leading others. From the philosophy of truth to the practice of self-leadership, this conversation is both practical and deeply reflective.

This episode is for leaders navigating complexity, those standing at a personal crossroads, or anyone seeking clarity in the face of uncertainty.

Move Mountains is a leadership development company based in Incline Village, Nevada. They work with individuals and teams to build real self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and communication skills that translate directly into how people show up at work and in life. Using coaching, immersive experiences, and their Mindful Leadership Map—a practical framework grounded in assessment and reflection—they help people take action with greater clarity, intention, and impact.

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In this episode, we sit down with Shelby Hart to explore the deeper side of leadership, one rooted in compassion, courage, and self-awareness. Shelby shares her personal journey from ICU trauma nurse to leadership facilitator, reflecting on the moments that reshaped her understanding of healing, purpose, and presence.

We talk about how unprocessed emotion can surface in the body, how belief systems form through crisis, and why authentic leadership starts with knowing yourself, even when it’s uncomfortable. Shelby opens up about her decision to leave medicine after 20 years, and how she found new purpose helping leaders grow through challenge instead of avoid it.

This conversation is raw, human, and timely for anyone standing at the edge of personal change or organizational evolution.

Move Mountains is a leadership development company based in Incline Village, Nevada. They work with individuals and teams to build real self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and communication skills that translate directly into how people show up at work and in life. Using coaching, immersive experiences, and their Mindful Leadership Map—a practical framework grounded in assessment and reflection—they help people take action with greater clarity, intention, and impact.

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Welcome back to Messy Adventures in Mindful Leadership with Charlie White. Today, we're joined by Lizzie Harbin, who offers invaluable insights on leading amidst life's unpredictability.

Lizzie emphasizes the importance of embracing life's messiness as a leader. From giving meaningful feedback to fostering open communication, she underscores the need for authenticity and resilience.

She encourages leaders to celebrate challenges with humor and humility, creating an environment where innovation thrives. Lizzie also highlights the value of accepting failure as part of personal growth.

For Lizzie, leadership means being comfortable with uncertainties and focusing on service to others. By doing inner work and embracing their own imperfections, leaders can better support their teams.

Join us for more inspiring conversations on Messy Adventures in Mindful Leadership. Stay tuned for insights that transform how you lead.

Yosi Amram joins host Charlie White for an enlivening conversation about converging leadership with spiritual intelligence in episode of 49 of 'Messy Adventures in Leadership.'

Yosi has coached over a hundred CEOs in the past twenty years. Serving as both a confidant and coach, he offers a sounding board for CEOs, providing guidance and coaching on building and managing companies, teams, investors, and boards. Yosi supports CEOs in developing more inspirational leadership, enhancing their leadership power by tapping into and nurturing their purpose, passion, and authentic presence, and creating deeper meaning through their work.

"My mission is to awaken greater spiritual intelligence in myself and the world. And my hope is that twenty years from now spiritual intelligence is as broadly permeating our culture as emotional intelligence." 

Yosi's latest book 'Spiritual Intelligent Leadership' is now available. 

Spiritual Intelligence (SI) is our ability to draw on and embody qualities from the world’s wisdom and spiritual traditions that have been shown to enhance functioning and wellbeing. To learn more about my research into Spiritual Intelligence and to receive your free Spiritual Intelligence profile highlighting your strengths, areas for growth, and curated tips for development, click here.

For more on Yosi check out www.yosiamram.net and his YouTube channel: Awakening Spiritual Intelligence. 

Join Move Mountains Charlie White and Chris Yount as they discuss the struggles and growth of running a business. Chris is all too familiar with leading teams, guiding entrepreneurs, and finding self-actualization through serving others and leadership development.

His advice for those in business dealing with the ups and downs:

"Do your best to find a peer group where you can share your struggles that are unique to you."

After losing her husband suddenly at 30 years old with a 1-year-old son and pregnant, Amanda Bauer Frisch has navigated life with incredible grace.

So, what is a Participation Trophy? Amanda emphasizes that we need to redefine what a participation trophy really is. First place isn't the same as showing up, but we still need to recognize that as a society, most people are dealing with silent battles that we don't see. It's important to acknowledge and applaud their participation.

"When I lost my husband, I needed people to tell me to keep going and to keep trying."

Join Move Mountains and Jane Burkhart and Lizzie Harbin. This jaw-dropping and inspiring conversation with Mother and daughter is full of hope and empowerment. Listen as they share their story in a candid conversation about their experience of domestic abuse and their journey and inspiration in healing.

This podcast has inspired Move Mountains to partner with the local family advocacy organization Sierra Community House, which helps families in Truckee and North Lake Tahoe. Join us on May 11th at Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe to meet Jane and Lizzie as they share their inspiring strength and story. 

All are welcome to come listen and share in this collective yet difficult healing journey. Enjoy the beautiful view of Lake Tahoe from the Lakeshore Ballroom at the Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe Resort and Spa. Join us from 1:30 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. on Saturday, May 11.

Contact the Move Mountains Team for more information on how to get involved.