In this episode, I’m sitting down with Keri-Lynne Shaw - negotiation expert, career coach, and former Chief People Officer. KL has coached thousands of women through the art of asking for what they want at work - and getting it.
We dig into how to negotiate without awkwardness, ask for more without over-explaining, and advocate for yourself even when it feels uncomfortable. KL shares mindset shifts, tactical scripts, and one powerful reframe that makes negotiation feel a whole lot less scary.
If you’ve ever wondered when to ask, how to ask, or whether it’s “too early” to speak up - this one’s for you.
We’re getting real about:
- Why not negotiating could be costing you up to $1.5 million over your career
- The most common ways women sabotage themselves in negotiation (and how to stop doing it)
- What hiring managers really think when you counter-offer
- How to approach a raise or promotion conversation when you're not in a leadership role - yet
- Why your "talent reel" matters just as much as your resume - and how to craft it
CHAPTERS:
1:06 – Intro + welcome
2:22 – What KL wishes she knew at the start of her career
4:14 – The difference between clarity and confidence
6:54 – Where early-career people get stuck in negotiation
10:32 – Why over-explaining makes you sound unsure
13:00 – What managers actually want from their reports
14:56 – Negotiation scripts you can start using now
19:32 – Feedback, boundaries, and managing up
23:12 – The mindset shift that changes everything
26:32 – KL's advice for the next generation of leaders
MY LINKS:
- Eline’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eline-de-wit/
- MOXIE: https://www.getmoxie.io/
EPISODE LINKS:
- KL’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keri-lynne-shaw/
- The Salary Bump: https://thesalarybump.com/