Happy Thanksgiving from Ms Underestimated West Coast! This week Kyra and Kate chat about Vancouver’s video game problems, the Real Deal James Neal on the third line of the Flames, The Oilers in Europe, Buffalo being the new Vegas and Tom Wilson’s Suspension.

This week Riot and Laura get ranty about: Gritty, Tom Wilson is the dumbest of jocks, the Canucks do not play Fortnite - nor will they ever, Should Nylander take a discount - you first bitches, Sidney Crosby was never whiter than that time he met Snoop Dog and SOOO much more.

Our WESTimated pod this week features a recap of our attending the Flames - Jets preseason game, our opinions on the new Tim Horton’s commercials featuring Sidney Crosby and Nathan MacKinnon, how to properly say Jost and Roope, who won the GQ photoshoots Matthews or McDavid, play a blast from Calgary’s musical past, and of course, thoughts on the new darling of our nightmares and the NHL, Gritty.

This week Amanda and Laura discuss Gritty, the new cannibalistic murder muppet working as a mascot for the Flyers to clearly fund his many addictions, the only thing worse than a Sidney Crosby Tim Horton's commercial is a Sidney Crosby Tim Horton's commercial - in french. Sid on a podcast and we catch Amanda up on the Central division.

Join Kate and Kyra this week on Ms UnderWESTimated as we discuss the Sharks' third jersey presentation versus the Flames’ Third jersey presentation, what NHL teams spend money on, Ottawa having no hope for their future other than the fact they’re still a team, If Matt Duchene is a curse on his teams, giving you our Hottest Takes about the pacific and central divisions, and the scoop on our plans for game we’re going to in person.

This week Amanda and Laura are joined by Brenton to discuss: so many bad third jerseys, NHL meh on Domi assaulting Ekblad, don’t panic Senator fan(s?) management wants you to know …they have a team, there are limits to how much we care about Sidney Crosby’s emotional well being and finally we catch Amanda up on the Metro.

Join Ms UnderWESTimated this week as Kate and Kyra discuss Austin Watson’s sentencing, Erik Karlsson joining the shark tank, Henrik Zetterberg’s retirement, the Flames’ attire in China, ugly new jerseys and goalie masks, winning the Stanley Cup being the equivalent of getting pregnant, and what hockey related books to read.

This week Laura is joined by Amanda to discuss: Karlsson finally gets traded, Tyler Seguin finally re-signs with the Stars, the NHL suspends Austin Watson, the NHLPA appeals... you're outraged right? Well don't worry cause the Preds want you to know that Austin and the team will be OK. Then Brenton joins us for part 2 of catching Amanda up on all divisions with our (now completely irrelevant) look at the Pacific division - thanks Ottawa!

Welcome to this bonus episode where you get to know Riot Rogers.

She's a hobbyist, cosplayer, gamer, mother of rats and now a new co host of our podcast. She tells us how she became a fan, who are her favs and even answers the MsUnderestimated questionnaire.

Join Kate and Kyra for an episode discussing NHL media day, what Johnny Gaudreau did on his summer vacation, Sid and Geno being our hockey dads, how good of friends you have to be to get matching dogs, and how freaked out Tyler Seguin is by snakes near his balls.