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This week my guest is Dr Orinayo Onabanjo, a chartered counselling psychologist with a passion for perinatal mental health. Orin's skills include helping mums cultivate stronger attachments with their babies and addressing the impact unresolved childhood trauma can have on the journey of motherhood. We chat everything from mum guilt to the racist inequalities faced by black and brown parents in the UK maternity system.
*TRIGGER WARNING: Birth Trauma and PTSD*
IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:
[00:00] Teaser quote.
[01:46] Introducing Orin.
[04:12] How Orin helps new parents.
[04:45] The identity change and adjustment that occurs when you become a parent.
[13:03] The relationship of unresolved childhood trauma and becoming a parent.
[15:23] High expectations and the pressure to be 'super mum' or 'super dad'. The need to be more self compassionate.
[16:51] Reflecting on perfectionism and the drive to be the 'perfect' parent. The importance of self compassionate action.
[19:49] 'Good enough' parenting and mum guilt.
[23:17] Black and minority mums are 4x more likely to die in childbirth. The urgent need to look into this and better understand the black experience.
[28:05] Orin's work with healthcare providers, increasing their understanding of perinatal mental health.
[34:26] Early intervention is key.
[36:30] If you feel trauma from your birth, you have birth trauma. You don't need a formal diagnosis of it.
[37:01] The impact of being emotionally invalidated during your labour.
[39:30] How to get in touch with Orin.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
If you enjoyed this episode, please share, rate and subscribe. It really does make the difference in helping others find it – which means helping more parents in need.
Follow us:
Join our Facebook Group
Email: [email protected]
NEXT EPISODE:
Our special Christmas episode is with Sandra Igwe, maternal health advocate, TEDx speaker and founder of the Motherhood Group. Sandra talks to me about her work raising awareness of the disparities of black women's maternal mental health outcomes and issues. She also bravely shares her own personal experience of birth trauma and motherhood.
SUPPORT:
If you are struggling right now, please know that it’s okay to talk and reach out for help.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND WILL NOT FEEL THIS WAY FOR EVER.
We hope these support services are helpful (please note we do not check or monitor them individually).
Action on Postpartum Psychosis (APP)
Moderated Forum, click here to find out more.
Email: [email protected]
Tel: 020 3322 9900
ADDA - the Attention Deficit Disorder Association
National Resource Center (NRC)/ADHD Helpline Health Information Specialists
866-200-8098, Monday-Friday, 1 p.m. — 5 p.m. ET
ADHD UK - peer support, created by people with ADHD for those with ADHD
The ADHD Foundation - the neurodiversity charity
Call us - 0151 541 9020
Email - [email protected]
AIMS for better birthing.
Email: [email protected]
This email will go to a group of AIMS volunteers and someone will respond as soon as possible.
Telephone: +44 (0) 300 365 0663
You will be able to leave a voicemail message which will be sent to all our Helpline Volunteers. Please include your name, phone number and brief details of your enquiry. A Volunteer will try to call you back as soon as possible.
Andy's Man Club
A non-judgemental talking group for men
https://andysmanclub.co.uk/club-information/clubs/
Email: [email protected]
Association of Postnatal Illness
Helpline: 10am – 2pm – 0207 386 0868
Email: [email protected]
Live chat online facility
Best Beginnings
Free NHS-accredited Baby Buddy app offering
evidence-based information and self-care tools to help parents during pregnancy
and early stages of parenting.
App users also have access to a confidential, text-based Crisis Messenger which provides
24/7 support for new and expectant parents who are feeling extremely anxious or overwhelmed.
Bi-Polar UK
email: [email protected]
Birth Trauma Association
Email: [email protected]
CALM
Contact CALM
on their national helpline: 0800 58 58 58 (5pm-midnight)
Cedar House Support Group
Email: [email protected] (Liz Wise)
Mobile: 07773 283556
Contact: for families with disabled children
Support, advice and information for parents with disabled children.
Dad Matters
Support dads to have successful relationships with their families, with mental health and accessing services through peer support and signposting.
0161 344 0669
DadsNet
Offers support and knowledge through a community of dads on practical parenting and fatherhood.
Dope Black Dads
A digital safe space for fathers who wish to discuss their experiences of being black, a parent and masculinity in the modern world.
Family Lives
An organisation providing immediate help from volunteer parent support workers 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Family Rights Group
Support for parents and other family members whose children are involved with or need social care services.
Fathers Reaching Out
https://www.reachingoutpmh.co.uk/
Run by Mark Williams, campaigner, speaker and writer, offering support to dads.
FiveXMore
A grassroots organisation committed to changing Black women and birthing people’s maternal health outcomes in the UK.
Email: [email protected]
Gingerbread
Single parents, equal families. Help and advice on the issues that matter to lone parents.
The Hub of Hope
A directory of mental health support around the UK.
LGBT Mummies
Supporting LGBT+ women & people globally on the path to motherhood or parenthood.
Email: [email protected]
Make Birth Better (Birth Trauma Support)
Email: [email protected]
Maternal OCD
Peer support available, email [email protected] to
arrange
Mayah's Legacy
Supporting and empowering anyone who has experienced pregnancy loss to advocate for themselves.
Email: [email protected]
0300 102 1596
The Motherhood Group
Dedicated to sharing and supporting the black maternal experience through peer support, projects and advocacy.
Motivational Mums Club
Offering Trauma, Mindfulness and Meditation sessions for Mothers and Mums to be with an NHS Mental Health Specialist, who’s also a Mother.
Music Football Fatherhood
Open conversations around fatherhood, including blogs, peer support and podcasts.
Muslim Women’s Network
Helpine: 0800 999 5786, open Mon-Fri 10am –
4pm with support offered in English, Urdu, Punjabi, Mirpuri, Putwari, Hindko,
and Bengali.
Email: [email protected]
Online chat: www.mwnhelpline.co.uk
Text: 07415 206 936
Netmums
Netmums offer peer support via their Maternal Mental Health Drop-In
Clinic.
NHS
Contact your local GP surgery.
Call the NHS on 111
or contact a local NHS urgent mental health helpline
If you are in crisis, visit Accident & Emergency at your nearest hospital.
PANDAS
Helpline open from 9am-8pm every day – 0843 2898 401
Email support available – [email protected]
Perinatal Wellbeing Ontario
PRENATAL, PREGNANCY AND POSTPARTUM SUPPORT & CONNECTION in Canada
Petals
Petals offers free-of-charge specialist counselling to anyone who has experienced pregnancy
or baby loss.
Web: petalscharity.org/counsellingcontact/
Email: [email protected]
Tel: 0300 688 0068
PMH Support
Scott Mair is a consultant in paternal mental health and parent education, Peer support trainer. Dad, Husband, Army veteran.
Samaritans
Tel: 116 123
(this is a free telephone number and will not appear on the phone bill)
Web: www.samaritans.org
Email: [email protected]
Sands Charity
Emotional and practical support for anyone affected by the death of a baby.
0808 164 3332
Email: [email protected]
Shout
Text SHOUT to 85258 to start a confidential...
By Vikki StephensonThis week my guest is Dr Orinayo Onabanjo, a chartered counselling psychologist with a passion for perinatal mental health. Orin's skills include helping mums cultivate stronger attachments with their babies and addressing the impact unresolved childhood trauma can have on the journey of motherhood. We chat everything from mum guilt to the racist inequalities faced by black and brown parents in the UK maternity system.
*TRIGGER WARNING: Birth Trauma and PTSD*
IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:
[00:00] Teaser quote.
[01:46] Introducing Orin.
[04:12] How Orin helps new parents.
[04:45] The identity change and adjustment that occurs when you become a parent.
[13:03] The relationship of unresolved childhood trauma and becoming a parent.
[15:23] High expectations and the pressure to be 'super mum' or 'super dad'. The need to be more self compassionate.
[16:51] Reflecting on perfectionism and the drive to be the 'perfect' parent. The importance of self compassionate action.
[19:49] 'Good enough' parenting and mum guilt.
[23:17] Black and minority mums are 4x more likely to die in childbirth. The urgent need to look into this and better understand the black experience.
[28:05] Orin's work with healthcare providers, increasing their understanding of perinatal mental health.
[34:26] Early intervention is key.
[36:30] If you feel trauma from your birth, you have birth trauma. You don't need a formal diagnosis of it.
[37:01] The impact of being emotionally invalidated during your labour.
[39:30] How to get in touch with Orin.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
If you enjoyed this episode, please share, rate and subscribe. It really does make the difference in helping others find it – which means helping more parents in need.
Follow us:
Join our Facebook Group
Email: [email protected]
NEXT EPISODE:
Our special Christmas episode is with Sandra Igwe, maternal health advocate, TEDx speaker and founder of the Motherhood Group. Sandra talks to me about her work raising awareness of the disparities of black women's maternal mental health outcomes and issues. She also bravely shares her own personal experience of birth trauma and motherhood.
SUPPORT:
If you are struggling right now, please know that it’s okay to talk and reach out for help.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND WILL NOT FEEL THIS WAY FOR EVER.
We hope these support services are helpful (please note we do not check or monitor them individually).
Action on Postpartum Psychosis (APP)
Moderated Forum, click here to find out more.
Email: [email protected]
Tel: 020 3322 9900
ADDA - the Attention Deficit Disorder Association
National Resource Center (NRC)/ADHD Helpline Health Information Specialists
866-200-8098, Monday-Friday, 1 p.m. — 5 p.m. ET
ADHD UK - peer support, created by people with ADHD for those with ADHD
The ADHD Foundation - the neurodiversity charity
Call us - 0151 541 9020
Email - [email protected]
AIMS for better birthing.
Email: [email protected]
This email will go to a group of AIMS volunteers and someone will respond as soon as possible.
Telephone: +44 (0) 300 365 0663
You will be able to leave a voicemail message which will be sent to all our Helpline Volunteers. Please include your name, phone number and brief details of your enquiry. A Volunteer will try to call you back as soon as possible.
Andy's Man Club
A non-judgemental talking group for men
https://andysmanclub.co.uk/club-information/clubs/
Email: [email protected]
Association of Postnatal Illness
Helpline: 10am – 2pm – 0207 386 0868
Email: [email protected]
Live chat online facility
Best Beginnings
Free NHS-accredited Baby Buddy app offering
evidence-based information and self-care tools to help parents during pregnancy
and early stages of parenting.
App users also have access to a confidential, text-based Crisis Messenger which provides
24/7 support for new and expectant parents who are feeling extremely anxious or overwhelmed.
Bi-Polar UK
email: [email protected]
Birth Trauma Association
Email: [email protected]
CALM
Contact CALM
on their national helpline: 0800 58 58 58 (5pm-midnight)
Cedar House Support Group
Email: [email protected] (Liz Wise)
Mobile: 07773 283556
Contact: for families with disabled children
Support, advice and information for parents with disabled children.
Dad Matters
Support dads to have successful relationships with their families, with mental health and accessing services through peer support and signposting.
0161 344 0669
DadsNet
Offers support and knowledge through a community of dads on practical parenting and fatherhood.
Dope Black Dads
A digital safe space for fathers who wish to discuss their experiences of being black, a parent and masculinity in the modern world.
Family Lives
An organisation providing immediate help from volunteer parent support workers 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Family Rights Group
Support for parents and other family members whose children are involved with or need social care services.
Fathers Reaching Out
https://www.reachingoutpmh.co.uk/
Run by Mark Williams, campaigner, speaker and writer, offering support to dads.
FiveXMore
A grassroots organisation committed to changing Black women and birthing people’s maternal health outcomes in the UK.
Email: [email protected]
Gingerbread
Single parents, equal families. Help and advice on the issues that matter to lone parents.
The Hub of Hope
A directory of mental health support around the UK.
LGBT Mummies
Supporting LGBT+ women & people globally on the path to motherhood or parenthood.
Email: [email protected]
Make Birth Better (Birth Trauma Support)
Email: [email protected]
Maternal OCD
Peer support available, email [email protected] to
arrange
Mayah's Legacy
Supporting and empowering anyone who has experienced pregnancy loss to advocate for themselves.
Email: [email protected]
0300 102 1596
The Motherhood Group
Dedicated to sharing and supporting the black maternal experience through peer support, projects and advocacy.
Motivational Mums Club
Offering Trauma, Mindfulness and Meditation sessions for Mothers and Mums to be with an NHS Mental Health Specialist, who’s also a Mother.
Music Football Fatherhood
Open conversations around fatherhood, including blogs, peer support and podcasts.
Muslim Women’s Network
Helpine: 0800 999 5786, open Mon-Fri 10am –
4pm with support offered in English, Urdu, Punjabi, Mirpuri, Putwari, Hindko,
and Bengali.
Email: [email protected]
Online chat: www.mwnhelpline.co.uk
Text: 07415 206 936
Netmums
Netmums offer peer support via their Maternal Mental Health Drop-In
Clinic.
NHS
Contact your local GP surgery.
Call the NHS on 111
or contact a local NHS urgent mental health helpline
If you are in crisis, visit Accident & Emergency at your nearest hospital.
PANDAS
Helpline open from 9am-8pm every day – 0843 2898 401
Email support available – [email protected]
Perinatal Wellbeing Ontario
PRENATAL, PREGNANCY AND POSTPARTUM SUPPORT & CONNECTION in Canada
Petals
Petals offers free-of-charge specialist counselling to anyone who has experienced pregnancy
or baby loss.
Web: petalscharity.org/counsellingcontact/
Email: [email protected]
Tel: 0300 688 0068
PMH Support
Scott Mair is a consultant in paternal mental health and parent education, Peer support trainer. Dad, Husband, Army veteran.
Samaritans
Tel: 116 123
(this is a free telephone number and will not appear on the phone bill)
Web: www.samaritans.org
Email: [email protected]
Sands Charity
Emotional and practical support for anyone affected by the death of a baby.
0808 164 3332
Email: [email protected]
Shout
Text SHOUT to 85258 to start a confidential...