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Podcast Title: Musicians Matters Podcast Series
Episode Title: Top 10 Drummers, Divine Connections, and the Journey of the Sauce
Hosts: Roderick Swift & Philip Butler III
Air Date: 06/04/2025 @ 4:30 PM PST / 7:30pm PM EST

Platform: All Digital Platforms | Positive Power XXI Christian Media
🔥 Episode SummaryThis powerful episode of Musicians Matters dives into heartfelt testimonies, powerful connections, and musical excellence! Roderick Swift and Philip Butler III take listeners on a journey celebrating music, legacy, and divine purpose.

🎤 Featured Highlights

• 🎟️ Drummers United Music & Arts Fest
• 📍 The Guard Station Recording Studio – 2270 Loci Road
• 📅 August 9 @ 12 Noon
• 🎫 Tickets on Eventbrite: Drummers United Music and Arts Fest
• 🔥 Spotlight: Savannah Sauce Company
• Roderick shares a moving testimony about the rise of his signature sauce, now going international thanks to a divine meeting with Michael Roberson of Savannah Sauce Company.
• ➤ Learn more: Savannah Sauce Company
• 🎶 Artist Spotlights:
  • Monica "Mz Drummer" – Phenomenal talent with appearances on Black Girls Rock
  • Mike Morell – A musical powerhouse: drums, bass, keys, and vocals
  • CeCe Winans, Fred Hammond, Lena Byrd Miles, and more!
  • Charles Shaw University Choir – "Jesus Keeps on Opening Doors for Me"

🥁 Top 10 Drummers & Legends Tribute

1. Ricky Lawson – Yellowjackets co-founder, Michael Jackson's drummer
2. Robert "Sput" Searight – Snarky Puppy, Ghost-Note
3. Paul Leim – Session drummer for Reba McEntire, Shania Twain, Lionel Richie
4. Jeremy Haynes – Gospel great, Marvin Sapp's Diary of a Psalmist
5. Rev. Milton Brunson & The Tommies – "For the Good of Them" legacy
6. Fred Hammond – Gospel icon
7. Lena Byrd Miles – Soul-stirring vocalist with "Walk on Water"
8. Mike Morell – One-man band sensation
9. CeCe Winans – The First Lady of gospel
10. Charles Shaw University Choir – A rising HBCU gospel powerhouse

🙏 Faith & FellowshipRoderick and Philip reflect on God's divine timing, family inspiration, and the church mothers who shaped their lives. It's a soul-filled, praise-heavy moment with laughter, tears, and truth.🔗 Connect & Subscribe

📲 Available everywhere podcasts are streamed 🎧 Powered by: Positive Power XXI Christian Media LLC 📍 Hosted by: Roderick Swift & Philip Butler III
🌍 Streaming in over 120 countries

🔥 Episode Overview:
This week on Musicians Matters Podcast, your host, Rodrick L. Swift, brings the Swift Sauce and shines a well-deserved spotlight on musical excellence, legacy, and purpose. This dynamic episode features a special guest, Saf Baker—drummer, minister, and visionary—discussing his involvement in the upcoming Drummers United Music & Arts Festival, his personal journey, and the launch of his new ministry: Family of Hope Worship Center.

From honoring the greatness of Questlove to showcasing the next generation of drum masters, this episode is a celebration of music, ministry, and movement.

🎤 Special Guest:Saf Baker

• Drummer & Minister
• Speaker at Drummers United Music & Arts Fest 15th Year Celebration
• Founder of Family of Hope Worship Center (Los Angeles & Hemet, CA)

📍 Major Announcements:🎶 Drummers United Music & Arts Festival 📅 August 9 @ 12 PM 📍 The Gas Station Recording Studio – 2270 Losee Road, Las Vegas, NV A multi-state gathering of top-tier drummers, artists, and creatives celebrating 15 years of musical impact.Featured Drummers:

• Duke Senior
• Pete Tillen
• Philip Butler
• Christopher Rogers
• Samaja Turner

Host: God's PoetGuests from California, South Carolina, Kansas City, and more!

🥁 Spotlight: Questlove

Rodrick and Saf honor the legacy of Ahmir "Questlove" Thompson, exploring:

• His minimalist drum kit style
• His musical storytelling & precision
• Influence across drumming, DJing, writing, and film
• His iconic role on The Tonight Show

Rodrick shares his admiration for Questlove's three-piece kit philosophy, and both hosts discuss the importance of intention and purpose in every note they play.

🥁 Top 10 Drummers Showdown:

Saf Baker's Top Picks:

• Terry Baker (Kirk Franklin)
• Chris Key (John P. Kee)
• Travis Barker
• Laarmel Lewis
• Teddy Campbell
• CJ Thompson
• Eric Moore
• Tony Taylor
• Aaron Spears
• Dex Taylor

Rodrick's Honorable Mentions:

• Questlove (The Roots)
• Moonchild – Jazz fusion group with powerful storytelling
• Brent Jones' Band – Stellar Award-winning musicians including:
  • Eddie Brown (Main Keys)
  • Craig Brockman (Organ)
  • Coy Hawkins (Drums)
  • Taki (Bass)
  • Dan "Spiffy" Newman (Guitar, B3)

🙏 Ministry Moment: Saf Baker – Family of Hope Worship Center

Saf shares his powerful testimony of surrender and obedience in launching a two-campus ministry:
📍 Los Angeles, CA
📍 Hemet, CACore Message:

• "The loudest sermon is your lifestyle."
• Faith isn't just about shouting—it's about consistent living.
• God is calling us to be salt and light in a world hungry for truth, love, and integrity.

💡 Final Thoughts:

• Be the change you want to see in the world.
• Honor your craft, live with integrity, and walk in your calling.
• Shout-out to Batman Jerry Royce Live and Positive Power 21 for creating this global platform that reaches over 150 countries.

📢 Next Episode Preview:
Guest: Philip Butler
Topic: Musicianship, Ministry & The Message
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🎶 Musicians Matters Podcast Series

Episode Title: "Celebrating Music Outros and Honoring the Sound of Bass with Special Focus on Charae Reed"

Hosts: Rodrick L. Swift & Phillip Butler II
Air Date: May 2025
Episode Overview: In this dynamic episode of Musicians Matters, hosts Rodrick L. Swift and Phillip Butler II dive deep into the artistry behind some of music's greatest outros. With a particular spotlight on the legendary bassist Charae Reed, the duo explores how strong outros shape the lasting impact of songs, from gospel to R&B to live jazz performances. They also reflect on the vital role of bass and rhythm sections in crafting unforgettable musical experiences.

Before the musical deep dive, Rodrick reminds listeners to attend the upcoming Drummers United Music and Arts Fest on August 9th at the Gas Station Recording Studio (2270 Losi Road). Tickets are available on Eventbrite or drummersunitedinternational.org.Main Topics Discussed:🎸 Tribute to Charae Reed:

• Discussing Charae Reed's contributions to gospel music.
• Highlighting his early standout performance in Joy to the World and the evolution of his dynamic Sunday sessions.

🎶 Importance of Outros:

• How outros finalize a musical message and emotionally resonate with audiences.
• The central role of bass and drums in shaping robust song conclusions.

🎵 Hosts' Top 10 Music Outros Countdown: (Listed with enthusiastic commentary and professional insights)

1. Charae Reed – "Joy to the World" (Christmas Special)
   • Celebrating the anointing and musicianship in his early live performances.
2. Lloyd Anderson with Candace Moore – "I Want You the Right Way"
   • A soulful reinterpretation featuring masterful bass work.
3. Kevin Powell with Rufus and Crew – "Be Grateful"
   • Powell's graceful mastery of the B3 organ and his continual excellence.
4. Charles Williams and the Jazz Trio with Marcus Brown – "Grow Up"
   • Celebrating multi-instrumentalist Marcus Brown and his profound musical journey.
5. Dr. Ricky Dillard & New G – "I Won't Go Back"
   • Recognizing Dillard's impeccable outro arrangements and choir leadership.
6. Marvin Sapp – "More Than a Conqueror" (with Calvin Rodgers)
   • Calvin's extraordinary drum arrangements and outro genius.
7. Bishop Larry Trotter & Sweet Holy Spirit Combined Choirs – "Blessing Me" & "Tell the Devil I'm Back"
   • Double impact: Powerful reprises crafted by the legendary Calvin Rodgers.
8. Saint Louis Fellowship Choir feat. Marcus Lampkin – "He Keeps On Blessing Me"
   • A vibrant outro showcasing STL's rich gospel tradition.
9. Richard Smallwood & Vision – "Anthem of Praise"
   • Celebrating classical orchestration and sacred excellence.
10. Britney Spears (Onyx Hotel Tour) – "You Drive Me Crazy" (Live Outro)
    • Highlighting Teddy Campbell's outstanding live concert drumming energy.

Special Highlights:

• Shining a light on Chicago and Saint Louis as central hubs for gospel excellence.
• Personal testimonies on the importance of staying rooted in faith amidst industry challenges.
• Practical advice to young musicians: Follow the script, be a good listener, stay disciplined, and honor the craft.
• Upcoming Events Reminder:
• 🎟️ Don't miss the Drummers United Music and Arts Fest in Las Vegas on August 9th, 2025!

Key Quotes from the Episode:

• "Once you're locked in with the bass, that's all she wrote." — Rodrick L. Swift
• "It's not about the tricks; it's about education, placement, and discipline." — Phillip Butler II
• "When you refresh others, you will be refreshed." — Inspired Reflection from Proverbs 11:25

Special Thanks: 🙏 To Jerry Royce Live, Positive Power XXI Christian Media LLC, and all listeners for their continued support in making this podcast an inspiring platform for musicians everywhere.