The conversation expands to consider how the combination of vocal sound, timbre and rhythmic placement can take music to a level beyond lyrics. Ethnomusicologist, Loren Kajikawa also shares whether his thoughts have evolved since his academic article — D'Angelo's Voodoo Technology: African Cultural Memory and the Ritual of Popular Music Consumption was published a decade ago, and touches on the influence of the late producer, J Dilla in D'Angelo's Voodoo technology.