We're joined by two guests - Niall Christie and Michael Fulton - to talk about the papers they gave at the recent Annual Meeting of the Medieval Academy of America.

They reveal some of the new and interesting ways historians and archaeologists are studying the crusades and the medieval Middle East.

Sorry about the audio we recorded at this conference, we know its not great but we thought the content was interesting enough to share. Next time we're on location we'll do better....