My First Stage: How I Landed My First Speaking Gig (and What Happened Next)

My First Stage: How I Landed My First Speaking Gig (and What Happened Next)

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  • From Nervous to Natural: Steps to Empowered Speaking with Kami Guildner

    Welcome to another episode of My First Stage! I’m Sara Lohse, your host, and every week I have candid conversations with experienced public speakers about their first stages, their biggest disasters, and how they found the courage to keep going. This week, I’m excited to introduce you to Kami Guildner, a powerful business coach with an unforgettable first stage story that is as cringe-worthy as it is inspiring.

    Kami is a business coach for movement-making women, dedicated to helping them amplify their voices, elevate their visibility, and build businesses that create real impact and prosperity. Her own story of going from a terrified first-time speaker to leading her own sold-out events and generating seven figures from the stage is proof that anyone can go from shaky knees to true confidence.

    What We Talked About

    • Kami’s Nerve-Wracking First Stage: Thrown into the deep end speaking to 200 women in oil and gas, Kami had a near meltdown but somehow powered through.
    • Overcoming Stage Trauma: How a disastrous beginning led Kami to swear off speaking—until she realized her mission depended on stepping up and speaking out.
    • Finding Her Voice Through Storytelling: How enrolling in a storytelling class and learning to “get in her body” transformed her speaking style.
    • Soul Speaks: Kami’s unique approach to authentic speaking—and why she believes connection starts within.
    • The Power of Story: We talk about why stories matter, how to paint a vivid scene, and why telling your truth is a tool for change (not self-indulgence).
    • Building Events and Selecting Speakers: Kami’s process for curating powerful line-ups for her Extraordinary Women Ignite conference.
    • From Freezing Up to Flowing: Kami’s top tips for dropping into your body, leading with your heart, and letting your words come from within.
    • Real Talk About Podcasts: Why we both believe it’s about the right people, not the biggest audience, and how speaking—on any stage, even a podcast—turns into business growth and connections that last.

    If Kami’s story resonated with you, here’s what you can do next:

    • Share Your First Stage Story – Want to join the conversation? Visit myfirststagepodcast.com and tell me about your own inaugural speaking moment!
    • Attend Ignite – For any women ready to find their voice and amplify their visibility, early bird tickets are on sale now at kamiguildner.com/ignite.
    • Subscribe & Review – Loved this episode? Hit subscribe, leave a review, and tell me what you want to hear more of.
    • Tell Your Story – Whether it’s at an event, on a podcast, or just on social, remember: your unique story could be exactly what someone else needs to hear today.

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-01:46] – I set the stage and Kami introduces herself. We share a laugh about barely missing each other at conferences before diving straight into Cami’s first big speaking moment—being told, with only a week’s notice, that she’d be presenting to 200 women in oil and gas.

    [01:46-03:27] – Kami describes her terrifying, frog-in-the-throat debut, and how the trauma of that experience nearly kept her from ever getting back on stage.

    [03:27-04:01] – The conversation focused on why it’s so hard to speak even when you know your material, exploring the mental hurdles and brain “freeze modes” that come with stage fright.

    [04:01-05:04] – We connect over how so many successful speakers actually started with disaster stories, and how universal that “first flop” really is.

    [05:04-06:16] – The discussion explored the journey from trauma to transformation—how Kami ultimately realized that if she really wanted to help women raise their voices, she had to get over herself and step up.

    [06:17-07:41] – Kami shares how discovering storytelling as a discipline helped her find ease and joy on stage, practicing her talks in front of her horses and connecting deeply to her stories so she wouldn’t forget.

    [07:41-08:45] – One concept discussed was “Soul Speaks”—tuning into your heart and letting authentic words flow, and why focusing on connecting to just one audience member at a time can melt away fear.

    [08:47-10:11] – We swap thoughts on vulnerability, storytelling, and why your story is really a gift for your audience (not just about you).

    [10:30-11:39] – The power of embodiment: Kami explains her method for dropping into her body before speaking, and how working with horses revealed the importance of “heart-to-heart” connection.

    [12:26-14:09] – Practical storytelling tips: painting the scene, describing the senses, and using visual detail to pull listeners into the heart of your story.

    [16:12-17:54] – Kami gives us a peek behind the curtain on how she curates diverse, high-impact speaker lineups for her Ignite event—looking for unique voices, mastery, and the right mix of energy and topics.

    [19:02-20:58] – We talk about how Kami’s style has evolved—from obsessive practice to relaxed presence, planning the path but flowing with the moment, and shifting from being “in her head” to connecting with the room.

    [23:31-25:15] – We both share why download numbers and audience size are NOT the point—one ideal listener is more powerful than a room of 1,000 disengaged people, whether it’s a conference or a podcast.

    [26:19-28:11] – Tips for aspiring speakers: the importance of opening with story, grounding yourself physically, and focusing on your real mission instead of your fear.

    [28:30-29:34] – Kami invites listeners to her Extraordinary Women Ignite Conference—and fire is definitely the theme this year!

    31 min
  • Stop Losing Leads: How Strategic Follow-Up Turns Speaking Gigs Into Clients

    Welcome to another episode of My First Stage: the podcast where I sit down with professional public speakers to get candid about how they found their first audiences, conquered the nerves, and built speaking into something truly transformational.

    This week, I had an incredible conversation with Wanda Allen—and if you’ve ever struggled with making follow-up a habit (hi, fellow ADHD crowd!), prepare to take notes. Wanda Allen has not only mastered the art of follow-up but has made it her career mission.

    Wanda Allen is an international speaker, coach, corporate trainer, author, and (quite possibly) the world’s leading follow-up expert. After a 25-year corporate career in banking where she developed world-class systems for persistence, Wanda Allen made the leap into teaching others how to master follow-up—turning simple actions into lifelong clients, opportunities, and stages. Whether you’re trying to sell, connect, or just keep in touch, her insights will change how you think about the fortune that really is in the follow-up.

    What We Talked About

    • Wanda’s Origin Story: How a corporate career cut short led her to her very first (unstructured!) speaking stages
    • Early Mistakes and Big Lessons: Why giving away “the whole store” doesn’t help your business—and how learning to sell from the stage is an ongoing process
    • What to Share (and What Not To): The life-changing tip of telling your audience what to do, but reserving the “how” for paid services
    • The Art of the Follow-Up: How to strike the right balance between bringing value and leaving your audience wanting more
    • Audience & Event Follow-Up: Tactical strategies for keeping connections warm—without letting fear or self-doubt get in your way
    • Lead Magnets That Work: Simple, actionable forms, drawings, giveaways, and examples of how to get high ROI from every event
    • Mastering the Phone: Facing down the fear of calling (and leaving voicemails!) in a text-and-email world
    • Why Consistency Wins: How committing to follow-up every single day can transform your speaking business

    If Wanda Allen’s approach to follow-up got you fired up, here’s what to do next:

    • Connect with Wanda – Get inspired, grab some freebies, or book a call by visiting followupsalesstrategies.com.
    • Put Action First – Schedule 10 minutes every working day for follow-up—call, email, DM, whatever works, but make it a habit.
    • Share Your Story – I want to hear about your own follow-up wins and horror stories! Head over to myfirststagepodcast.com and let’s keep the conversation going.
    • Subscribe & Review – If these strategies are helping you step up your speaking game, subscribe to My First Stage, leave a review, and tell me who you want to hear from next!

    Thanks for joining me this week! Keep practicing your follow-up, keep collecting those wins, and I’ll see you next episode on My First Stage!

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-01:10] – I introduce Wanda Allen and we jump into her background, from 25 years as a senior VP in banking to suddenly being let go—and being challenged to teach her secret: follow-up.

    [01:11-03:30] – Wanda Allen recounts her first shaky, unstructured stage experiences, the mistake of giving away too much, and how a coach helped her recognize she was overdelivering rather than inviting action.

    [04:27-05:10] – The game-changing advice: tell your audience what to do, not how to do it—the “how” is your expertise, reserved for clients.

    [06:49-07:52] – How Wanda Allen now draws a clear line between free content and her paid program, handling audience questions by offering high-level advice without giving away her systems.

    [09:38-10:10] – Why “making the audience laugh” isn’t just about being a comedian—Wanda Allen shares how she uses humorous slides to keep things authentic and fun, even as a non-comedic speaker.

    [11:27-13:34] – Follow-up essentials: sending thank-you emails, striking while the iron’s hot, and why you need to contact interested audience members immediately to maximize ROI.

    [14:34-16:48] – Navigating lead magnets, worksheets, and business cards: what works, what’s a waste, and how to be “pleasantly persistent” without coming across as pushy.

    [18:29-19:50] – Lead generation tactics that get results—simple forms, drawings, and even Starbucks gift cards can fill your pipeline with hot leads without overwhelming your process.

    [21:03-24:02] – What do you say after the first follow-up? Wanda Allen reveals how many touches it really takes (hint: usually more than five!) and how staying consistent sets you apart.

    [24:05-28:25] – Why the phone is still your secret weapon, even when “nobody answers” these days, and how voice-to-voice (and even voicemail) builds relationships faster than endless email threads.

    [30:54-31:32] – The number one habit for ROI: commit to follow-up as a daily non-negotiable—it will change your business, your bookings, and your confidence.

    33 min
  • Using Podcasting to Shape Your Speaking Career With Justin Peters

    Welcome to another episode of My First Stage: the podcast where I sit down with public speakers to get real about how they got started, how they landed their first stages, and how speaking helped transform their businesses and lives.

    I had the pleasure of sharing the (virtual) stage with Justin Peters, one of my favorite competitors in the podcasting world and someone who always keeps me inspired. Justin is a podcast coach, co-founder of SimplePod, and the host of Podcast Playbook. Not only has Justin been podcasting since 2019—he’s helped countless business owners launch, edit, and manage podcasts that build authority and trust with their audiences. We’ve spoken at many events in our shared city, and I’m thrilled for you to hear his story.

    Here’s a quick overview of what Justin and I discussed during our conversation:

    • Justin’s Unconventional First Stage: How saying “yes” to a viral opportunity landed him in front of 250 people as a 20-year-old.
    • Big Stages vs. Small Stages: Why smaller audiences can trigger bigger nerves—and why stage size impacts your engagement style.
    • Building Your Personal Brand: The role of content creation in getting noticed, “being qualified,” and landing speaking gigs.
    • Toastmasters & Skill Development: How Justin used Toastmasters to sharpen his ability and stay intentional about growing as a speaker.
    • Monetizing Your Stage Time: How Justin leverages presentations for lead generation, business growth, and long-term relationships.
    • Judging Success: The mix of metrics and gut feel that determines whether a speaking opportunity was worth it.
    • Repurposing Your Content: Strategies for turning speaking gigs into lasting assets—in newsletters, podcasts, and social posts.
    • Podcasting & Speaking: Why podcast hosts make great speakers, and how practicing content off-stage translates to confidence on-stage.
    • Authenticity vs. Polish: Our take on filler words, nervous ticks, and why being relatable matters (especially in the personal finance space!)
    • Maximizing Every Role: How moderating panels and volunteering can be stepping stones to bigger stages—and how to be strategic about it.
    • Advice For Aspiring Speakers: Justin’s best tip for beginners—start local, build your list, and don’t be the one to tell yourself “no.”

    If Justin’s story lit a fire for you, here’s how you can turn inspiration into action:

    • Share Your Story! – I want to hear about your own first stage moment. Visit myfirststagepodcast.com and let’s connect.
    • Connect with Justin – Learn more about Justin’s work at SimplePod Studios or follow him on LinkedIn. And don’t miss his new Podcast Playbook show!
    • Subscribe & Review – If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to subscribe to My First Stage. Leave a rating or review and let me know who you want to hear from next!
    • Take Your First Step – Apply for a local conference, volunteer as a moderator, or pitch yourself as a podcast guest. Your next stage could be just one ask away.

    Thanks for joining me for this fantastic episode—can’t wait to bring you more stories, advice, and fresh inspiration on the next My First Stage!

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-01:10] – I introduce Justin and we reminisce about sharing stages together; Justin shares how his first big speaking opportunity came from a viral blog post and led him onto a major industry stage.

    [01:10-02:16] – Justin describes “ripping the bandaid off” for his first 250-person talk—and getting help from a co-speaker.

    [02:16-03:21] – We discuss nerves, audience size, and the surprising impact of smaller, more intimate crowds.

    [03:32-04:30] – Justin explains why smaller rooms can be tougher—and how podcasting reps have calmed his nerves.

    [04:41-05:34] – Justin lays out his personal brand strategy for getting on stages: content, identity, and creating expertise that attracts opportunities.

    [05:49-06:31] – The meaning of “qualification” for speakers—Justin talks about guiding an audience through their problem and knowing your subject deeply.

    [07:43-08:52] – Justin’s practical advice: just apply for speaking slots, reach out to event organizers, and don’t wait for someone else’s invitation.

    [09:18-10:06] – The business impact of speaking: Justin shares how stage appearances drive direct leads, conversions, and long-tail followers.

    [10:33-11:18] – Quantitative vs. qualitative measures of success—metrics, gut feeling, and meaningful hallway conversations.

    [13:36-14:35] – Structuring talks for lead generation: tactical content, resource downloads, and real-time engagement strategies.

    [14:42-15:46] – How podcasting and speaking go hand-in-hand—practicing content, generating ideas, and building confidence behind the mic.

    [17:24-18:19] – Using podcast episodes and clips as speaker reels in applications (and why it gives you a strategic edge).

    [18:57-20:20] – Authenticity vs. polish—why you don’t have to be perfect, as long as your insight and storytelling land for your audience.

    [22:28-23:47] – Justin’s worst stage experience: disorganization, interruption, and lessons learned about MCs and panel moderation.

    [26:12-28:47] – Using panel moderation, volunteering, and smaller roles to grow your reputation and credibility for larger stages.

    [29:24-30:47] – Repurposing speaking gigs for social, podcast, and newsletters—why every moment on stage can turn into powerful marketing.

    [31:07-31:48] – Justin’s bonus tip for beginners: start local, build your conference/event master list, and aim for manageable, high-impact opportunities.

    [32:06-32:37] – Justin introduces Podcast Playbook, his brand-new show for business podcasters, and explains where you can find him.

    34 min
  • The ROI of Speaking: Growing a Business by Getting on Stages, Ready or Not

    Welcome back to another episode of My First Stage! I’m your host, Sara Lohse, and this is the podcast where we dive deep with professional public speakers to find out how they got booked on their very first stages, what happened next, and all the ways public speaking can transform a business—and a life.

    This week, I sat down with the incredible Kati Peterman, and her first stage story is as wild (and relatable) as it gets. If you’ve ever “blacked out” on stage, felt completely overwhelmed by the tech, or doubted whether you could handle the heat, you are going to love this conversation.

    Kati is the founder of FRX and a true industry expert on live events, stages, and being in the spotlight—though, as you’ll hear, even the pros don’t always remember their first time! Kati isn’t just a master event producer; she’s also a seasoned facilitator, educator, and—most importantly—a speaker who’s brutally honest about what it feels like to get thrown into the deep end.

    Here’s a quick look at what Kati and I explored in this episode:

    • Kati’s Hilarious First Stage: How she went from behind-the-scenes to front-and-center when her boss fell ill… and the total on-stage “blackout” that followed.
    • Getting Past the Nerves: Why confidence in your content matters, and how surprise interruptions (and ego-tripping audience members!) can still throw a pro off.
    • Tech, Microphones, and Secret Survival Tips: The lessons Kati learned about event tech—like why she swears by the “Britney mic.”
    • Learning to Love the ROI: How stepping on stage replaced paid ads, powered referrals, and revolutionized Kati’s approach to business development.
    • Creating Your Own Stages: Why you shouldn’t wait to be invited—launch that webinar, masterclass, or podcast and build your own authority.
    • Tactical Advice for Pitching: Straight talk on how to win over event organizers by being collaborative (not just self-promotional).
    • Social Proof and Clean Profiles: Why it’s critical to make sure your digital presence lines up with the professional you want to be.

    If you found Kati’s story inspiring or you’re ready to step onto your own stage, here’s what you can do next:

    • Share Your Own Stage Story — Visit myfirststagepodcast.com and tell us about your unforgettable “first stage” moment!
    • Connect with Kati — Reach out to Kati Peterman on LinkedIn or explore yourfrx.com for strategy sessions, events, and industry insights.
    • Subscribe & Review — If you enjoyed today’s episode, subscribe to My First Stage wherever you get your podcasts, leave us a rating/review, and let us know what you want to hear next.
    • Take the Leap — Don’t wait to be discovered. Host your own virtual event, mastermind, or podcast—even a small platform teaches you how to shine!

    Thank you so much for tuning in! I can’t wait to bring you more raw, practical stories and advice from the best stages (and speakers) out there.

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-00:39] — I introduce Kati and she shares how she landed on her very first stage completely unprepared (and thanks to a boss with a sudden illness!).

    [00:39-02:52] — Kati relives her “blackout” moment during a live masterclass—panic, sweat, and all—plus the quick-thinking AV team that helped her recover.

    [02:52-04:52] — We laugh about how it feels to realize you can’t remember anything you said on stage, and Kati shares the inside joke she now has with her boss: “Just don’t black out.”

    [04:56-08:07] — Kati reveals exactly what changed the next time she spoke (hint: control + preparation), her favorite tech setup, and how interruptions can still shake your confidence.

    [08:08-12:00] — We talk about audience Q&A “hijacks,” managing awkward story-sharers, and why handling the unexpected is key to feeling in control.

    [12:00-14:54] — Kati and I dig into how ANYONE can create their own speaking opportunities with podcasts or virtual training—and why it’s crucial to deliver both education AND entertainment.

    [14:55-19:45] — We break down the need for “eight to 11 hours” of audience education before a high-ticket sale, the power of recurring content, and tips for priming your audience before live calls.

    [19:50-24:23] — Practical differences between virtual and in-person events, plus Kati’s strategies for keeping audiences engaged (and awake!) in both settings.

    [24:25-29:18] — Kati shares game-changing advice for pitching yourself to event organizers—and why being “value-add” and audience-focused matters way more than hyping yourself up.

    [29:39-31:25] — We wrap up with Kati’s biggest advice: Don’t wait for the perfect moment—start now, make your online presence clear, and treat every opportunity like it’s your dream stage.

    33 min
  • Lessons from Theater and TEDx: Paul Pape’s Best Advice for Aspiring Speakers

    Welcome to another episode of My First Stage: the podcast where I get the real stories from public speakers about their journeys to the stage—the good, the messy, and everything in between.

    This week, I sat down with the truly one-of-a-kind Paul Pape. If you’ve ever wondered how a “Santa for Nerds” finds his voice on a TEDx stage (and how a custom lightsaber dildo ends up involved), you’re in for an episode you won’t forget.

    Paul is a TEDx speaker, a designer, an author, and the creative genius behind Paul Pape Designs. For over 20 years, he’s made a name for himself crafting custom collectibles for the geeks, nerds, and superfans of the world—earning him the unexpected (but perfect) nickname “Santa for Nerds.” Paul’s work has landed him clients like Disney and The Today Show, but his journey to public speaking and the TEDx stage was anything but typical.

    Here’s a taste of where our conversation took us:

    • The Origin of “Santa for Nerds”: Why Paul’s clients started calling him this, and how it instantly made his unique business make sense to everyone.
    • Landing a TEDx (Twice!): Paul’s refreshingly honest story of hiring a coach, submitting applications, and getting his first (and second) TEDx talks faster than he ever imagined.
    • When the Talk Changes Last Minute: The wild story of showing up in West Virginia, getting asked to scrap his prepared speech three days before the event, and delivering a brand-new talk—with no finished script.
    • From Theater to TEDx: How Paul’s background in theater (even after being told he’d “never be an actor”) shaped his confidence, performance style, and survival skills on stage.
    • The Real Reason Behind TEDx: Paul drops some truth bombs about why he wanted a TEDx at all—and how it plays into business, ego, and authority.
    • Honestly, Authority Matters: How having “TEDx Speaker” next to your name can open doors—even when the video barely cracks 1,000 views.
    • The Weirdest Custom Requests Ever: Yes, including dildos and bomb-themed engagement ring boxes (with a side of international intrigue and possible prison time).
    • Stage Advice from the Trenches: Why memorization isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, and why being authentic and passionate is the best way to land any room.

    Did Paul’s story inspire you, make you laugh, or convince you to wear your nerdiness with pride? Here’s where to go next:

    • Share Your Story – I want to hear about your weirdest first stage moment or wildest gig! Reach out to me at myfirststagepodcast.com.
    • Connect with Paul – Got a “nerd wish” or want to gamify your creative business? Check out paulpapedesigns.com for his custom work, or gamifybusiness.com for his coaching.
    • Subscribe & Review – If this episode entertained or encouraged you, subscribe to My First Stage, leave a rating or review, and let me know your favorite guest (or who you want to hear next!).
    • Take a Stage—Any Stage – Sign up for a local event, hit “record” for a video, or submit to a TEDx. No matter your story, the stage is waiting.

    Thanks for listening, nerds, artists, and aspiring stage heroes! I can’t wait to bring you more unfiltered stories and actionable inspiration on the next My First Stage.

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-01:31] – I introduce Paul, his impressive list of titles, and we dive right into the origin of the “Santa for Nerds” nickname and brand.

    [01:32-03:31] – Paul explains how he landed not one, but two TEDx stages (spoiler: it took way fewer applications than expected), and reflects on the irony of getting into his second talk with a single DIY submission.

    [03:32-05:02] – We discuss the logistics of getting booked—whether you need local connections, and how Paul had zero ties to West Virginia, where he gave his first TEDx.

    [05:03-06:32] – The rehearsal process, Zoom meetings, and then: the bombshell request to change his entire talk just days before the event.

    [06:33-08:21] – Paul walks through crafting a brand-new “artist discovery” talk on the fly, picking prop stories, and stepping onto the TEDx “dot” without a landing.

    [08:22-09:41] – With a theater background (and notorious confidence), Paul details what it’s actually like delivering a brand-new monologue to a roomful of strangers…and getting a standing ovation.

    [09:42-11:07] – Why TEDx? Paul opens up about building authority, transitioning from behind-the-scenes artist to business coach, and the surprising reasons a TEDx credential matters for creatives.

    [11:08-12:59] – From theater world to the red dot: Paul reflects on the TEDx experience, explains the “business people playing theater” dynamic, and his role making the event as theatrical as possible.

    [13:00-15:27] – The hard reality of memorization, differing event rules, four months of rehearsal, and why most talks fall flat without acting chops.

    [15:28-18:26] – Paul shares actionable advice for non-theatrical folks: use bullet points, rehearse with the camera, treat the audience like your scene partner, and don’t let nerves turn you into a robot.

    [18:27-20:30] – How Paul leveraged his TEDx into more speaking and authority (even with “sub-1,000 views”), and how those three little letters can open even more doors down the road.

    [20:31-22:43] – The wildest commissions: from Kevin Smith’s infamous lightsaber dildo to the “James Bond” bomb proposal box that nearly sparked an international incident.

    [22:44-24:31] – Paul tells the outrageous story of making a movie-quality fake bomb, international shipping hijinks, and why he’ll never make one again.

    [26:10-27:01] – Final advice: Be the hero of your own adventure, follow your passion, be authentic, and remember—there’s an audience for everything (even the weirdest things you can imagine).

    28 min
  • How to Overcome First-Time Stage Fright and Successfully Sell from the Stage

    Welcome to another episode of My First Stage! This is the podcast where we dive into the early moments of some of today’s most seasoned speakers. We talk about the nerves, the mishaps, the lessons, and the surprising paths that can turn one first stage into a lifelong calling—and a business superpower.

    This week, I sat down with Jeremy Shapiro, a serial entrepreneur, author of Your Business Growth Playbook, and host of the Your Business Growth Podcast. Jeremy’s story is not just a masterclass in public speaking, but also a hilarious reminder that sometimes the biggest mishaps become our most pivotal memories—yes, even if they involve ripping your pants before a big sales pitch.

    Jeremy Shapiro has spent 30 years building businesses and helping other entrepreneurs break through plateaus and frustrations. He’s a systems thinker, a champion of iterative growth, and a firm believer in just getting out there and starting—even if you’re scared, unprepared, or in desperate need of a tailor. As an author, podcast host, and sought-after speaker, Jeremy’s advice is equal parts practical, actionable, and empathetic (with plenty of war stories to prove it).

    Here’s what Jeremy and I covered in our conversation:

    1. A First Stage You’ll Never Forget: Jeremy recounts his first big speaking gig—a nerve-wracking sales presentation, complete with cold calls, last-minute changes, and a catastrophic wardrobe malfunction.
    2. Teaching vs. Selling from Stage: The psychological and tactical differences between teaching a small interactive class and commanding a big room with a clear sales goal.
    3. The Power of Systems (and Scripts): How following a tried-and-true framework can help conquer your fears and get real results, but why injecting personality and adapting is key.
    4. Failing to Sell Live: The painful story of a zero-sales webinar, what went wrong, and how feedback and constant tweaking turned a flop into an eventual success.
    5. Building Connection and Confidence: How Jeremy learned to bring personal stories, improv, and interactivity into every presentation.
    6. Secrets to Audience Engagement: From hand raises to “trial closes,” real-world tactics for keeping a crowd involved—even when you can’t see them through the blinding stage lights.
    7. The Book, the Podcast, and the Trifecta: Why Jeremy believes in having multiple platforms as a thought leader and how he uses each to land more stages and clients.
    8. Real Advice for Getting Started: Why embarrassment is part of the journey, why MVPs matter, and how every pedal stroke and every ripped pair of pants get you closer to your dream stage.

    If Jeremy’s story got you fired up (or left you checking your own pants before your next talk), here’s what you can do:

    1. Share Your First Stage Story – I want to hear from YOU! What was your most memorable first time on stage? Head to myfirststagepodcast.com and share your story.
    2. Connect with Jeremy – Check out Jeremy’s book and podcast at yourbusinessgrowthplaybook.com for more tips on growing your business and your confidence.
    3. Subscribe & Review – If you loved this episode, subscribe to My First Stage, leave a review, and let’s keep sharing these real behind-the-scenes journeys.
    4. Start Speaking, Start Failing – Seriously: pitch yourself for a local workshop or event, host a webinar, just get in the reps. Every “embarrassing” start is an investment in your future success.

    Thank you so much for listening to this episode. I can’t wait to bring you more raw, honest, and inspiring first stage stories right here on My First Stage!

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-01:02] – I introduce Jeremy Shapiro and set the stage for his first-stage story—about being thrown into a sales presentation he wasn’t expecting (and most definitely wasn’t ready for).

    [01:04-03:28] – Jeremy describes his absolute reluctance to be on stage, the shock of having to cold call hundreds of prospects, and the blunt reality of a pre-pitch wardrobe disaster.

    [03:28-04:14] – What do you do when you rip your pants an hour before your first big speaking gig? Learn about Jeremy’s mad dash to a tailor and how the show had to go on.

    [04:14-06:37] – Breaking down the difference between teaching a workshop and selling from a stage—and why that mental shift tripped Jeremy up at first.

    [06:39-09:21] – Why selling from the stage is a different beast, and how bombing a live webinar taught Jeremy the value of iteration, constructive feedback, and refining your pitch.

    [09:33-10:40] – How switching from facts to stories, ditching the word-for-word script, and adding trial closes created a dramatic improvement in audience response and sales.

    [10:45-11:22] – The practical mechanics of trial closes: getting audiences to nod, say yes, and qualify themselves before the final pitch.

    [12:27-13:18] – In-person vs. online audiences, how body language can tell you everything, and what Jeremy learned from his wins and his losses.

    [13:37-14:17] – The power (and limits) of techniques like scarcity bonuses, fast-action offers, and social proof to get audiences to actually take action.

    [14:28-16:00] – How adding relevant, real, and recent stories instantly personalizes a presentation, breaks the fourth wall, and makes your audience lean in.

    [16:18-18:19] – The cringe-worthy mistake of forgetting to click “start meeting” on a webinar with hundreds of people waiting, and how leading with vulnerability set up a more successful second run.

    [19:30-20:31] – How Jeremy’s speaking career has evolved—facilitating small mastermind groups, commanding huge ballrooms, and loving every rep and every format.

    [21:00-22:07] – The differences in interacting with thousands vs. dozens, how to harness audience energy, and why panels and conversations are a sweet spot.

    [22:27-23:44] – Practical tactics for engaging big audiences you can’t see, from house light tricks to collective questions and building peer-to-peer connection.

    [24:26-28:35] – Why the “trifecta” of book, podcast, and stage matters, and how each platform feeds the next—by opening doors, boosting authority, and turning audience members into clients.

    [28:57-30:18] – Jeremy’s biggest advice: just start, embrace embarrassing failures, get the reps, and don’t try to perfect your way out of ever beginning.

    [31:02-31:27] – One pedal stroke at a time: how Jeremy’s cyclist mindset applies to pushing onward in public speaking and entrepreneurship.

    33 min
  • Overcoming First Stage Nerves: How Preparation and Connection Build Confident Speakers

    Welcome back to My First Stage! Today I’m joined by Tim Newman—a recovering college professor turned communication coach and host of the Speaking with Confidence podcast.

    In this episode, Tim opens up about his very first (and very messy) speaking experience, how he overcame his nerves, and what it really took to start speaking with confidence. We talk about the long road from stage fright to the stage lights, practical steps for conquering filler words, the power of knowing your audience, and how understanding generational differences, especially with Gen Z, can transform your communication.

    What We Talked About

    • The Messiest First Stage Ever: Tim Newman literally threw up during his first five-minute college presentation—and he’ll tell you why that wasn’t even the last time that happened!
    • Getting Comfortable (Slowly): How going from terrified to teach in high school and college forced Tim Newman to find a framework for real confidence and audience connection.
    • How to Actually Cut Out Filler Words: The “lightbulb” moment that made Tim Newman reimagine public speaking—and why preparation and knowing your audience is everything.
    • Generational Communication Differences: Why Gen Z doesn’t want to be lectured, how to adapt for younger (or older) crowds, and what it means to facilitate real two-way connection.
    • Making it Interactive: The power of hands-on exercises, small group discussions, and napkin-based elevator pitches—even in a digital world.
    • The Best Advice from a Connector: Why taking massive imperfect action is the single most important thing for your speaking journey, and how building connections fuels both personal and professional growth.

    If Tim Newman’s story inspired you—or made you feel a little less alone in your own stage jitters—here’s what you can do next:

    • Share Your Story – I want to hear about your own first stage moments, messy or triumphant! Head to myfirststagepodcast.com and drop me a note.
    • Connect with Tim Newman – Get his free ebook, tune into Speaking with Confidence, or grab his book at timnewmanspeaks.com.
    • Subscribe & Review – Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to My First Stage, leave a review, and let me know your favorite guest or who you want to hear from next!
    • Take Your First (or Next) Speaking Step – Whether it’s hosting a workshop, jumping on a podcast, or raising your hand at your next meeting, remember: confidence grows with action, not waiting.

    Thank you so much for being here. I can’t wait to bring you more real, relatable stories and game-changing advice on My First Stage!

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-01:00] – I kick off the episode and introduce Tim Newman, who immediately admits his first speaking experiences were a little (okay, a LOT) messy.

    [01:00-02:41] – Tim Newman shares the infamous story of throwing up on stage in his very first college communications class. Spoiler: it wasn’t the last time, either!

    [03:00-04:47] – We talk about why stage fright never totally disappears, how Tim Newman moved from fear to purpose, and the slow, hard process of becoming comfortable on stage.

    [05:32-06:15] – The game-changing student question that led Tim Newman to create his signature framework for cutting filler words and transforming how he taught communication.

    [06:31-08:15] – Tim Newman breaks down his prep strategy: researching the audience, understanding conference attendees, and how he does deep dives on LinkedIn before every big talk.

    [08:16-10:41] – We dive into how to adapt for generational differences on stage—and why Gen Z wants interaction, engagement, and trust (not just another lecture).

    [10:54-14:46] – Tim Newman reflects on what it took to connect with Gen Z, from taking students out to lunch to turning class into real conversations and building trust through action.

    [14:58-15:57] – Practical tips for engagement: using emojis, breakout rooms, and micro-interactions to keep digital (and in-person) Gen Z audiences tuned in.

    [16:27-17:07] – Tim Newman reveals two favorite attention-getters for presentations: opening with a question or a joke, and the napkin exercise that sparks creativity and connection.

    [17:44-18:30] – The best reward for being a true connector: Tim Newman shares a heartwarming story of former students showing up years later to celebrate their friendship and growth.

    [18:50-20:30] – We discuss Tim Newman’s book on connections, what being a connector (and a climber) actually means, and why you don’t have to choose between helping others and growing yourself.

    [21:12-21:54] – The single biggest piece of advice: Take massive imperfect action. Don’t wait for the perfect moment to begin your speaking journey.

    [22:17-24:35] – We wrap up with Tim Newman’s perspective on cheerleading, the importance of surrounding yourself with challengers (not just “yes” people), and the key to continuous growth.

    27 min
  • Speaking Smarter, Not Harder: How to Book More Speaking Gigs with Leisa Reid

    Welcome back to My First Stage! I’m your host, Sara Lohse, and this is the show where I get real with speakers from all walks of life about how they landed their first gigs, overcame setbacks, and built thriving businesses—and communities—through getting on stage.

    This week, I had the pleasure of speaking with Leisa Reid, a name you absolutely need to know if you’re serious about public speaking. With over 600 talks delivered, nine books, and as the founder of Get Speaking Gigs Now and CEO of the International Speaker Network, Leisa has not only mastered the art of getting onstage—she’s built a business around helping others do it, too. If you’ve ever wondered how to go from dreaming about speaking to actually getting booked (a LOT), Leisa’s story and advice are going to fire you up.

    Here’s a quick overview of what Leisa Reid and I covered:

    • Her journey from starting out in 2013, landing 83 speaking gigs in her first year, and then building a machine for consistent bookings and referrals
    • The launch of the International Speaker Network for collaboration instead of cold-calling
    • The biggest myths around “paid” vs. “free” gigs and why she focused on lead generation instead of speaking fees
    • How to develop your one “ready to rock” signature talk and why you don’t need dozens of unique presentations
    • Using regional association chapters and event mapping to multiply your speaking opportunities close to home
    • The wildest moments on stage—from malfunctioning projectors to unexpected tornado warnings
    • The secret sauce for turning talks into clients (and what most speakers miss)
    • How to sort the real gigs from the “catfish” ones and use referrals to find your best opps
    • Why “brilliance hoarding” keeps you invisible, and how confidence skyrockets when you claim your expertise—and your offer

    Ready to step up your speaking game after this episode? Here’s what you can do:

    • Grab Leisa’s Free Tips – Visit getspeakinggigsnow.com/tips to get Leisa Reid’s five top tips for booking more speaking gigs right now.
    • Audit Your Signature Talk – Take a page from Leisa Reid: focus on creating and perfecting one “ready to rock” talk before anything else!
    • Map Your Opportunities – List out local associations and organizations where your ideal audience hangs out, and start nurturing those networks—referrals are gold.
    • Avoid the Catfish – Network with other speakers, trade honest feedback about events, and don’t fall for the “pay to play” hype unless you know your ROI.
    • Subscribe & Leave a Review – If this episode inspired you, subscribe to My First Stage, leave a review, and tell me what tip or story stood out—or who I should bring on next!

    Thank you so much for tuning in. I can’t wait to bring you more no-fluff advice, wild stories, and actionable strategies next week on My First Stage!

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-02:46] – I introduce Leisa Reid, who dives right in with her story of landing 83 speaking gigs in her first year (and the lesson in not cold-calling alone, thanks to building a referral network).

    [02:46-03:45] – We talk about why her early focus wasn’t on paid gigs, but generating high-value clients through speaking, and why “what’s your talk?” should be your first question.

    [03:45-05:12] – Leisa Reid breaks down why having ONE signature talk is game-changing, and how perfecting it leads to real results instead of burning time creating new talks for every event.

    [05:12-07:23] – Strategies to book dozens of stages within a “50 mile radius”—and how Leisa Reid leveraged regional association chapters to quadruple her opportunities.

    [08:58-09:53] – We discuss the learning curve of speaking, why you should do one talk a LOT before expanding, and how things inevitably go wrong (including tech disasters and last-minute pivots).

    [12:15-13:41] – Leisa Reid shares her “worst day” stories—like the time a failed projector forced her to improvise with an easel—and why going analog can save the day.

    [15:33-16:46] – What to always bring with you, from handouts and offers to “knowing your talk in your bones,” so you’re ready whether the power goes out or bees fly into the room.

    [19:05-20:31] – Why there’s no “magic list of gigs”—and how mapping your ideal audience, associations, and events locally builds the “treasure in your backyard.”

    [22:40-23:53] – We dig deep on why not all gigs are worth your time, how to avoid getting catfished, and why trusted speaker networks are crucial for quality referrals.

    [27:04-28:55] – A real talk about “pay to play” opportunities, running events through your “resentment filter,” and what to watch out for if you’re offered a stage in exchange for a fee.

    [30:10-31:26] – Why not getting clients from your talks means there’s a “hole in the boat,” and how sales strategy is an inescapable reality (even for doctors and attorneys).

    [32:36-33:39] – How to create genuine visibility: get your signature talk ready, share it confidently, and watch as opportunities start to find you.

    [34:09-36:47] – Leisa Reid’s top actionable tips: build your talk, know your ideal audience, get a monetization plan, and use research (and even ChatGPT) to find your first gigs.

    39 min
  • Confessions of a First-Time TEDx Speaker with Colette Fehr

    Welcome to another episode of My First Stage, where I get to sit down with amazing public speakers, dig into their journeys, and uncover how those “first stage” moments became launchpads for business, growth, and transformation.

    This week, I’m thrilled to share my conversation with Colette Fehr—a licensed psychotherapist, nationally recognized relationship expert, author, podcast host, and, as of last year, a TEDx speaker! If you’ve ever felt the sting of rejection or wondered if putting yourself out there is really worth it, Colette’s story is going to hit home in the best possible way.

    Colette Fehr is the author of The Cost of Quiet, a breakthrough book on communication in relationships, and she’s the host of the Substack newsletter “Secrets from a Therapist.” Known for her warmth, honesty, and practical advice, Colette brings decades of experience as a therapist and public speaker. In April 2024, she achieved a major goal by landing—and absolutely crushing—a coveted TEDx stage.

    Here’s a snapshot of what Colette and I dug into:

    • The Realities of Landing a TEDx Talk: How Colette navigated repeated rejection, burnout, and the “franchise” world of TEDx applications.
    • Using Personal Connections (and How to Pitch): Why and how she chose local and meaningful places to apply, and the strategies she put into her applications.
    • Failing Forward—Openly: Why Colette embraces talking about setbacks and how she uses vulnerability as fuel for personal and professional growth.
    • Show Day Surprises (and Epic Recoveries): What really happened when her slides glitched, the clicker died, and how she managed to connect in the face of technical chaos.
    • Collaboration Over Ego: The power of working with coaches and trusted partners, and why you shouldn’t write your keynote or talk in a vacuum.
    • Turning TEDx Into a Platform: How being on a TEDx stage (and being chosen as a TED Editor’s Pick!) has opened doors, boosted her speaking fees, and become a key credibility builder.
    • Advice for Aspiring Speakers: Why Colette says you should speak anywhere and everywhere, leverage Toastmasters, tap into mentorship, and never stop refining your craft—even when you’re terrified.

    If Colette’s stage story inspired you, here’s your next move:

    • Watch Colette’s TEDx Talk – Find the link in our show notes, give it a watch, and soak up her wisdom about communication, vulnerability, and growth.
    • Connect with Colette – Grab her book The Cost of Quiet wherever books are sold, subscribe to her Substack “Secrets from a Therapist,” or find her on Instagram @colettejanefehr.
    • Start Building Your Own Stage Muscles – Join Toastmasters, offer to speak in your local community, or just start sharing your insights online—every rep counts.
    • Subscribe & Review – If you loved this episode, please hit subscribe, drop a review, and let me know who you want to hear from next!
    • Pitch Your Story – Have a first stage memory (triumph or disaster) you want to share? Visit myfirststagepodcast.com and let’s connect!

    Thanks for joining me on this episode of My First Stage. Colette’s story is proof that persistence, vulnerability, and collaboration will always outshine perfection. I can’t wait to bring you more amazing journeys next week!

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-00:38] – I introduce Colette and highlight her many hats: psychotherapist, author, podcast host, and TEDx speaker.

    [00:38-02:57] – Colette introduces her book The Cost of Quiet and draws the connection between her work and the stories she chose for her TEDx Talk.

    [02:57-03:34] – We dive deep into the emotional rollercoaster of applying for TEDx, the pain (and lessons) of rejection, and how personal “connections” played into her pitches.

    [04:05-05:45] – Colette breaks down her TEDx hunt process: navigating decentralized applications, LinkedIn cold outreach, customizing every pitch, and getting “lucky” on her 7th try.

    [07:16-10:11] – Colette describes the days leading up to landing her TEDx “at the last minute,” the exhilaration of getting picked, and the intense prep work that followed.

    [10:11-13:14] – The real chaos: Colette recounts her first TEDx onstage moment, encountering a dead mic, slides gone rogue, and how she powered through by ditching the script, embracing vulnerability, and connecting with her audience.

    [13:14-14:29] – We talk about what it means to be a TED Editor’s Pick, the honor of being highlighted, and why her video was delayed in release.

    [14:46-16:16] – We dig into the impact of her TEDx Talk (26,000 views and counting), how she’s used it to level up, and why it’s not always about going viral but building credibility and community.

    [16:16-17:39] – The magic of collaboration: why even seasoned speakers need writers, editors, and perspective shifters to make their stories stronger and more relatable.

    [17:39-20:03] – We reflect on what it’s like to write and coach a talk together, and how an authentic partnership put Colette’s voice front and center.

    [20:03-22:04] – How TEDx has shaped her career beyond speaking—building brand trust, boosting fees, and leveraging the “cachet” of the TEDx name in her media and business platforms.

    [22:13-24:34] – Colette’s top advice for speakers: get your reps in everywhere (from Toastmasters to traffic corners!), find mentors, and don’t be afraid to ask for feedback or help.

    [24:48-25:41] – Colette shares how to find her book, her Substack, and all the best ways to get in touch and learn from her.

    27 min
  • Mastering Speaking, Storytelling, and Stage Presence with PodMatch Founder Alex Sanfilippo

    Welcome back to another episode of My First Stage! I’m your host, Sara Lohse, and this is the podcast where I sit down with professional speakers to dig into how they landed their first stages, survived their early stumbles, and learned to leverage speaking for serious growth—personally and professionally.

    This week, I had the absolute joy of chatting with my friend, my true “podmatch,” Alex Sanfilippo. From running one of the most respected platforms in podcasting to conquering everything from tech conferences to lightning-fast Pecha Kucha talks, Alex is a powerhouse in both podcasting and public speaking. If you’ve ever wondered how to own your quirks on stage, or how authenticity can actually give you an edge, you’re not going to want to miss this episode.

    Alex Sanfilippo is a podcaster and the founder of PodMatch.com, a platform that automatically matches podcast hosts and guests for interviews. Through PodMatch and his podcast titled Podcasting Made Simple, Alex helps independent podcasters grow their influence and revenue so they can better serve their listeners!

    Here’s what Alex and I talked about in this conversation:

    • From Conference Puns to First Stages: How we met (and how I embarrassed myself), and Alex’s unexpectedly stressful (but life-changing) debut on a WordPress stage.
    • Miscommunication, Imposter Syndrome, and What Happens When Your Talk Gets “Bumped”: The story behind my near-trash-can-moment and what really happened with my “lost” keynote.
    • Pecha Kucha Panic: Why the five-minute, auto-advancing-slide format is secretly the hardest stage around—and our mutual respect (and terror) for anyone who nails it.
    • Finding Your Room: How to know if a stage or conference is really the right fit for your personality, business, and style—and why it’s okay to say no to the wrong audience.
    • Authenticity > Perfection: The moments that reinforced why showing up 100% as yourself can be your best asset—even if your slides are covered in sparkles instead of stats.
    • Selling Without the Ick: Alex’s approach to sharing your offer from the stage so it feels like a gift—not a pitch.
    • The Power of Stories, Using Your Hands, and Being “Too Much”: We unpack tips from Carnegie training, ADHD over-explaining, and why neither of us can resist tangents (or pink slides).
    • Lead With Value: The core of Alex’s philosophy for growing a speaking business that actually helps people—and keeps the lights on.
    • The Soggy Sandwich Principle: Why generosity on stage (and off) pays off in unexpected ways, even if you don’t get your payoff right away.

    Did Alex’s story inspire you to find your own stage (and own your quirks while you’re at it)? Here’s what you can do next:

    • Connect with Alex – Head to podmatch.com/ep/207 to check out my training that Alex referenced, plus resources and everything PodMatch related.
    • Subscribe, Rate & Review – If you loved this episode, hit subscribe, share with a fellow podcaster or speaker, and leave a review on your favorite app.
    • Choose Your Room – This week, reflect on where you show up best. Say yes to your people, and don’t be afraid to say no where you can’t be your truest self.
    • Lead with Value – Before you speak, pod, or pitch, ask yourself: am I here to give or to get? Start with generosity—watch what comes back (maybe, in the form of a “soggy sandwich”).

    Thanks so much for joining Alex and me this episode. I can’t wait to bring you more stories, strategies, and real talk on My First Stage!

    Timestamped Summaries

    [00:00-01:14] – I welcome you back, introduce Alex, and we reminisce about how a pun-filled bracelet at a Houston conference started our pod-matched friendship.

    [01:19-02:59] – The embarrassing backstory: why I almost hid behind a trash can at Podcast Movement after misreading radio silence from Alex.

    [03:34-05:33] – Alex recounts his real “first stage”—a WordPress conference where, despite nerves and imposter syndrome, he came out the “blog guy” and found his calling as a trainer.

    [06:07-07:29] – The content journey: blogging to podcasting, why text-only wasn’t enough, and how he bridged those worlds for early podcasters.

    [07:29-09:10] – Discovering PodFest by accident, stepping onto his first Pecha Kucha stage, and why five-minute “chit chat” talks are the ultimate speaker challenge.

    [09:12-11:10] – We admit our mutual terror for Pecha Kucha, and joke about attempting one together (maybe…in 2027?).

    [12:05-13:15] – The perils of speaking too fast, cramming too much content into too little time, and the surprising value of slowing down for your audience.

    [14:07-15:14] – Alex shares Dale Carnegie’s best speaking tip: tell one story, explain it once, and let it land—plus, the odd exercise of demonstrating how to “rub the shine out of a quarter.”

    [16:27-18:12] – Using your hands, being animated, and how body language creates instant trust with your audience.

    [19:13-21:12] – Permission to double down on your quirks: why authenticity always trumps imitation, and how to own your difference instead of aiming for bland perfection.

    [22:51-23:18] – Not every stage is your stage: the real story behind mismatched audiences (think: sparkly slides at a research conference) and when to say no.

    [24:02-26:13] – Sussing out “your room”: how Alex researches conference culture, past speakers, and organizer energy before accepting a gig.

    [27:27-28:16] – That moment you almost show up in the “monkey suit”—and how ditching conformity can win over a tough crowd.

    [30:18-32:00] – Turning stages into business opportunities (without being a pitch machine): Alex’s subtle, value-led approach to sharing Pod Match or resources on stage.

    [33:07-35:54] – My rant about why “lead with value” isn’t just Alex’s T-shirt motto—it’s the only sustainable way to build trust and impact as a speaker, podcaster, or business owner.

    [36:02-37:19] – The difference between internal and external purpose, keeping your business mission focused on service, and why financial success naturally follows genuine impact.

    [37:20-38:16] – The “soggy sandwich principle”: how my family’s twist on “give to get” sums up everything we’ve discussed about generosity and reciprocity.

    [38:38-39:43] – Final advice: selling without the cringe, and Alex’s top resource for mastering stage-to-offer transitions (jump to podmatch.com/ep/207).

    [39:43-End] – All the ways you can find Alex, connect, and why every message reaches the real him (no bots, no virtual assistants, just Alex).

    41 min

About My First Stage: How I Landed My First Speaking Gig (and What Happened Next)

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Every speaker has a story. But before the standing ovations, the TEDx invitations, and the six-figure speaking fees, there was one gig—the first real stage—that started it all.