Steph and Beth have their very first guest! Steph’s mom, Vicki, stops by to discuss why she and Steph are not friends. They have an amazing relationship built on mutual respect, dialogue, and having fun together, but they are NOT friends. Even now that they are colleagues and business partners, they still aren’t friends. Beth shares why she takes the same approach with her kids—choosing motherhood over friendship. In this episode, Beth reminds Steph of the first time they met (which Steph didn’t remember!) and how Vicki was instrumental in that meeting. This Episode is packed with emotional moments, including Vicki’s emotional re-telling of how it felt for her when Steph told her she was dealing with Non-Suicidal Self-Injury.

Full transcript and show notes here: https://dospod.us/e10