Jake was on Blethered in June 2020, and told me all about making documentaries in North Korea, getting up close and personal with ISIS executioners, and spending time with the far-right English Defence League.

This time, we talk about Jake’s podcast company Message Heard and their new projects, including the phenomenal ‘Finding Natasha’...

We reflect on the success of Message Heard’s ‘Conflicted’ podcast, hosted by Thomas Small and former Blethered guest Aimen Dean…

We have a laugh about the weird people who want to get the green M&M pregnant...

And as always, plenty more.

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