Kwena and I have had rocky dating histories. He, at one stage, dated  a woman who was essentially a kiddy-fiddler. I was once stood up by a woman, and the restaurant subsequently burned down. Together, we recorded another podcast.

The Ground Floor Podcast
http://beacons.page/tgfp
Available on podcast streaming platforms:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6cizGso...
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast...

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