A special guest joins Mary and Jay to talk about navigating marriage, ministry, moving, having kids, working, full time ministry, and serving one another. This is a can't miss conversation with Jay's wife, and Mary's mom, Ginger McSwain. Whether you are already married, in a season of engagement, or evaluation, this conversation will be so encouraging to you! Hear Ginger and Jay reminisce on 34 years of marriage and ministry with one another, and how they have learned to support one another and the passions they sought to pursue throughout the ever changing seasons of life the Lord brought them to and through.