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Rev. Celeste's guest is Rev. Marie Kirkland. Rev. Marie is  a licensed minister with the Centers for Spiritual Living. She is the Founder and Spiritual Director of Living Aligned Virtual Ministry (www.livingalignedvirtualministry.org).   Living with an open heart, she inspires sacred conversations that lead to self-discovery. And she facilitates classes that evoke curiosity and empowers individuals to live aligned and forward.

Living Aligned means being at home in your own life, not betraying any part of yourself. We need to live our whole life in a way that we can deepen relationships (especially with ourselves and with the God of our understanding).

The Living Aligned community has several circles. One is a Spiritual Thought and Leadership Circle - a sacred space for New Thought ministers to come together in conscious leadership to expand and grow together. Other circles are called Living Aligned, Finding Your Voice,  Aligning our Body Temple and Spiritual Pathways. 

Living Aligned is an online community where people can create their own experience. They have sacred conversations every Tuesday.

Marie is a contributing author to the Amazon Best Selling book, "Speaking Your Truth" (https://www.amazon.com/Speaking-Your-Truth-Courageous-Inspiring-ebook/dp/B005LIDUGW/ref=sr_1_16?). This book is a collaboration where several authors came together. Rev. Marie's contribution is a chapter entitled "Ready to Listen Now". She was working as a manager, mothering via Bluetooth, putting out fires, arranging to attend the kid's concert or game when she had a certain feeling in her chest. She left to go to an urgent care facility. They sent her to the hospital immediately. In the back of the ambulance, she said "I'm ready to listen now". It was a catalyst for change for her.

She uses mindfulness as a way of being. She has monk mode in the morning. She does the dailies and spends time in the silence. She does her spiritual practice, such as meditation or journaling, etc. She does her deep work here. In her schedule, she leaves space between appointments to breathe into it. Her health has certainly improved and she is conscious to keep it that way. This path of discovery has been her body temple.

Her next book is "Doing Less to Become More".

Marie is now working on her doctorate in Spiritual Psychology. In her research, her question is where is the gap in what we currently know? She is an advocate for spiritual communities to live aligned, eliminating burnout for first responders, ministers, social workers, teachers. She is learning the best practices to do that.

Marie has served the World Ministry of Prayer in the past and they have a ministry of prayer at Living Aligned. You can submit prayer requests at livingalignedvirtualministry.org and licensed spiritual practitioners will pray for you.

Rev. Marie has a podcast called "Living Aligned Living Forward" (‎Living Aligned Living Forward with Marie Kirkland on Apple Podcasts). This podcast is an intimate conversation with the guest (spiritual leaders and cultural creatives) and asking how they are living aligned. What are the lessons have they learned? Sometimes, we bump up against ourselves when we are in an intersection with Truth before us, paradox behind us and fear and faith. REv. Celeste will be on an upcoming episode on that podcast.

Reach her at livingalignedcommunity.org or mariekirkland.com

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Rev. Celeste interviews Rev. Karen Fry, one of the Spiritual Leaders of Centers for Spiritual Living, Dallas. She's a Science of Mind minister who has a genuine love for all life. Rev. Karen is known for her prosperity consciousness and she is committed to living an abundant life!

Karen's father taught her that nothing was hers. She gets to have the energy - the current of life. Money is an expression of this current. She gets to play with this limitless expression. There cannot be a limit in the money. In the 2008 recession, she made more money than she's ever made in her life selling a medical device using spiritual principles. She had a no ceiling income and later became a salaried minister. She did not see herself as limited because she is vigilant in keeping her consciousness aware of unlimited possibilities. She has an e-course called "Money is God in Action". We have to uproot the lies of the past and place our focus on living limitless.

Rev. Celeste mentioned Edwene Gaines (https://edwenegaines.wwwhubs.com), who is a prosperity teacher who walks on fire. Karen watched her colleagues in Asheville, NC walk on fire and it was so transformative that she brought the instructor to Dallas. She realized this is for her. She went to Tolly Burkan (tollyburkan.com), who trained Tony Robbins to firewalk, and learned to firewalk from a spiritual perspective because she wants to help people break through barriers. Karen is a certified fire walking instructor.

In New Zealand, she bungee jumped off a bridge knowing that the Universe's umbilical cord has her. She saw an energy of lights and held the vision that all is well. It was very freeing. She wants us to know not to let fear stop us, knowing That which is greater than me can do anything.

Rev. Karen Fry discovered she had breast cancer seven months after accepting a position as co-spiritual leader and moving to Dallas. Karen used all of her spiritual tools and did a big universal "no" to the cancer. The cancer went away as she forgave herself and moved deeper into loving herself. She asked for the lesson, and rose above the statistics to became cancer-free. Once she fell inlove with herself, she found the love of her life, Rev. Dr. Petra Weldes.

Karen started a "Be Love - Pass It On" movement in 2014 after a meditation where she realized that she came here to be boundless love. She made wristbands and t-shirts. It went over really well with teens and others. She continues to ask the question, how can I be love in this moment?

The Science of Mind Archives in Colorado has a lot of history and information about spiritual principle. Karen became a member of the board in order for the teachings of Ernest Holmes to last (scienceofmindarchives.com).

Rev. Karen is involved with Faith Forward Dallas, an organization that started with Imam Omar Suleiman and AME pastor,  Rev. Michael Waters. People come from different faiths and traditions to stand together.  Starting with the muslim ban, they have stood together at Botham Jean's murder, removed confederate statues in Dallas and gone to the border to support child immigrants with Rev. William Barber. The four areas of focus are immigration, racial equity, gun sense and unsheltered housing solutions.
 
She finds magic in her life when she is photographing wildlife. It's the closest thing to oneness as she looks through the lens of love at nature. She also finds magic in her 11-month young granddaughter watching her be excited about life in such a pure and joyful way.  Karen finds magic in traveling with Petra.

Check out the amazing Science of Mind class at CSL Dallas with Karen's partner, Rev. Dr. Petra Weldes Fry (csldallas.org) or learn to firewalk with Rev. Karen Fry.

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Rev, Celeste's guest is Rev. Ruth Littlejohn, a Religious Science minister, a leadership and spiritual coach, who specializes in personal development and  is a diversity practitioner. Ruth presents workshops as well.

Rev. Ruth is a calming presence who helps to reduce stress and create a safe environment. Rev. Ruth grew up in a traditional church. She was born before her mother was married, so she carried herself as a sin. It wasn't until years later when she walked into a Science of Mind center (scienceofmind.com) in Philadelphia that she was set free. She took a class that told her there was nothing she could do that would have her not be whole, perfect and magnificent. She realized that if she does the work and continues to study, she can live in Heaven now.

Ruth was successful in the business arena. But after she became awakened to her magnificence, she recognized barriers to bringing her whole self to work. Around 2000, she chose to do work differently.

Known as a client whisperer, her clients feel heard and safe. The way that Ruth energizes is being quiet and alone and listening.

If graded, Ruth would give the U.S. a "C" in diversity. In inclusivity, the U.S. would receive a "D", an "F" in equity and a "D" in justice. We've put people in place, but people are not being treated appropriately. We can get better in touch with internalized racism. She works with Champion Fleming in doing racial circles.  Ruth gives people the experience for them to get in touch with what's going on, and gives them practices to help them change. She is holding the space for them to get in touch with their greatness.

We've done the window dressing. Now it's time for structural change.  How can we move past our supremacy roots and unravel that? Rev. Ruth thinks we need to forgive ourselves and the country. Then, we need to give reparations. There are some outstanding debts that have got to be paid, and that may include education and mental health. South Africa had significant conversations that helped their healing.
 
Dr. Martin Luther King, Vernon Jordan (Vernon Jordan - Wikipedia), and John Lewis (John Lewis - Wikipedia) did great work but we need to heal the wound now. That will make a difference for us.

Ruth is a personal development junkie doing things like Landmark, sweat lodges (Sweat lodge - Wikipedia), and fire walking. An adventuress, Ruth did the fire walk with Tony Robbins group (tonyrobbinsfirewalk.com) to relight the passion within her. She believes you can push yourself without measuring yourself with others. She helps people to develop and sustain a spiritual practice. We need to let something go in order to  create a space for the spiritual practice.

There were no women ministers in her family, so it took her a while to accept her ministry even after graduating with a ministerial degree. As the result of visioning, Ruth moved to Virginia Beach and started the Hampton Roads Center for Spiritual Living. After five years, she was complete and resigned in 2018. Rev. Victoria Thomas came from Agape to become their minister. The center left CSL (csl.org) and became Agape East (agapeeast.org).

Ruth was taught to go to school to get a good job, and one must work harder to prevail. Now she knows she doesn't have to work hard, and that she is more than enough.

You can find Rev. Ruth on LinkedIn (Ruth Littlejohn, M.Ed., M.S., M.A. | LinkedIn), on Facebook at Ruth Littlejohn, LLC or at [email protected]

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Rev. Celeste discusses Love. She begins with mentioning the song "I've Got Love on My Mind" by Natalie Cole (Natalie Cole - I've Got Love On My Mind Lyrics | AZLyrics.com). But she doesn't speak of longing or romance. She does speak of feeling confident expressing Love. The motivating factor of being loved can put us in a mindset of trading love. She is not speaking about the method of loving or the way one wants to be treated, which appear to be conditional or ego-based. Love is unconditional by nature.

She speaks about the energy of Love. She references the Dalai Lama (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Dalai+Lama+%2b+how+well+did+you+love&qpvt=Dalai+Lama+%2b+how+well+did+you+love&FORM=IGRE) asking how well did you love?  Being in touch with Love is to be in touch with Spirit. Spirit is Love.

She explores loving unconditionally. Fear gets in the way of loving. Trust is a key ingredient in actively loving. She talks about feeling safe or unsafe. Rev. Celeste references the bible quote: "Perfect Love casts out all fear" (1 John 4:18 NIV - There is no fear in love. But perfect - Bible Gateway) and she talks about loving from a distance. You are lovable. Even betrayal cannot cause me to stop loving you. We must not rely on behavior as a condition for loving.

She references the "A Course in Miracles" quote about anger and separation: "Anger always involves projection of separation which must ultimately be accepted as one's responsibility" (A Course In Miracles - Text: Chapter 6 - Introduction (acimi.com)).  No one can "make you mad". We somehow believe that we can be attacked. To separate, one must be afraid.  We must have a belief that we are destructible. What you believe is what you will teach by how you live your life.

She quotes Howard Thurman on love from his poem, "The Greatest of These":  "The fruit it bears sustains the nerve...breaks the chain of fear... condemns the things that shrink the soul... (For the Inward Journey: The Writings of Howard Thurman - Howard Thurman - Google Books). Love is precious, intrinsic and is in the texture of our nature.

She quotes Ernest Holmes saying: this life is "dominated by love" (The Essential Ernest Holmes - Google Books) and states that, in our interactions, we notice love.  And she quotes Ernest Holmes speaking of how we have not "interpreted the Light of Love running through life" . Love allows us to see. She also quotes Ernest Holmes saying "Love is at the center of man's being".  Everything about us is governed by Love.

She quotes Rumi "If the Beloved is everything, the lover is a veil".   God is Love.

Celeste reads her poem "How Are You Lovin'?"

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Rev. Celeste's guest is Rev. Brian Akers. Rev. Brian has been involved in the New Thought Movement since 1992. Born and raised in California, Rev. Brian was raised by his single father. Growing up socio-economically near the bottom of the scale, and being a white male, he found the benefit of using his confrontational nature to approach things he cares about.

When Brian moved to Baltimore, it was around the time of the murder of Freddie Gray. This  radicalized Brian to get involved with racial equity issues.  He got involved with BUILD (Baltimoreans United In Leadership Development)(buildiaf.org) and crashed a Finance Committee meeting to get to meet with the City Council and the Sheriff Department around this issue. Realizing that he was raised in a hotbed of White supremacy, Brian began to look at the advantages he had and became aware of his remorse of his Whiteness.

He referenced prideful White folks who don't want to feel guilt or shame for racism. Brian took the time to become anti-racist (Being Antiracist | National Museum of African American History and Culture (si.edu)) and consciously remorseful, realizing the privilege he enjoys in his life. He invites others to discover their Whiteness but not to be thrust into a shame-filled guilt-ridden experience, but to  be consciously remorseful. It's irrational not to explore the natural remorse.

Rev. Brian works with PATH (PATH IAF – People Acting Together in Howard), to cultivate power and drive policy. He works with Community Resources and Services in Howard County to do coat drives and count the number of homeless people. He also works Columbia Community Care (columbiacare.live) who helps to feed children at the schools.  He likes to work with people who are directly addressing the community. He lobbies to organize things like affordable housing, and to get tax breaks for people on leased land.  He seeks to drive policy to address a local need.

Rev. Brian has created a denomination called Oneness New Thought (onenessnt.org)). He loves the theology of Religious Science, but he wanted to create a religion of choice - not to be the only religion or the best religion or the right religion, but to have a specific religious approach to Religious Science principles. It's both a religion and a system for spiritual living.  This denomination has four pillars: core principles, divine virtues, concepts of creation and immortality and specific spiritual practices . It has a supportive structure with accountability. He wanted and needed a place that was a community for himself that is built with both accessible  articulation of what they believe and allows people to practice the faith in their own way. Their spiritual practices are prayer, reflection,  meditation, envisioning,  study, community and generosity.

He seeks conscious collaboration has studied conscious capitalism (2020 Home - Conscious Capitalism), built on generosity and having a higher purpose. He also works with the Howard County Association of Realtors (HCAR.org) and the Laurel  Multiservice Center. 

They also discuss capitalism and socialism.  We are being taken care of my our Creator. We see tangible evidence of this through humanity.

Find out more about the purveyor of badassery - a cannabis positive, sex positive, martial artist, at itsreallyreal.com and Facebook.

Oneness New Thought has online services on Sundays at 12 pm ET.

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Rev. Celeste A. Frazier presents a solo show discussing Freedom and Justice as divine qualities juxtaposed against freedom and justice in America . "My Country Tis of Thee" (America (My Country, 'Tis of Thee) - Wikipedia) is the both the backdrop and the title of her discourse.

Rev. Celeste A. Frazier is a natural-born citizen. Having lived in the United States as her home for over 63 years, she has noticed the hesitancy of many to accept Black people. She shares her life-long exploration of the meaning of freedom. Although there is much propagation that this country supports freedom, equality and justice for all, there is an abundance of suppression, bias and inequity.

Rev. Celeste recognizes Freedom as a spiritual quality graciously given to us by our Creator. Juxtaposing this Truth, she shares the story of Keyon Harold, a 14-year old, who was accosted and wrongfully accused by a White woman  of stealing her phone. (Woman accused of attacking teen in NY hotel arrested after fleeing, boy's family speaks out - ABC News (go.com). Celeste questions the young man's emotional freedom as he is now in therapy.

Celeste looks at the hateful events that occurred in Washington, D.C. this week  and wonders why the perpetrators felt free to bust out the windows of the Capital and violate precious places where Congress meets. She describes fear as the motivating emotion, not Love.

We share Creativity, another attribute of God, given to us to expand our spirit and gain a greater understanding of ourselves. Celeste shares her own personal challenge with her ego and the instinct to defend or retaliate. She references "A Course in Miracles" (acim.org) which invites us to forgive; but forgiveness may not be delayed while we are on our journey of learning. She indicates that we can take the injury and create a story, presume intentions, create a case and move further into separation - which is the opposite of Freedom and Oneness. She identifies fear as the culprit because the "attack" actually occurs in our minds.

Rev. Celeste questions what she would want to reconcile at her moment of death. She shares the trauma of being a Black woman contemplating the deaths of Breonna Taylor (Shooting of Breonna Taylor - Wikipedia) and Ahmaud Arbery  (What We Know About the Shooting Death of Ahmaud Arbery - The New York Times (nytimes.com) while living in a White neighborhood alone.

Exploring isolation and exile, Rev. Celeste references Nelson Mandela (Nelson Mandela - Biographical - NobelPrize.org) and the Dalai Lama (Freedom in Exile - Wikipedia) and recognizes that we can only be free in our minds.

Celeste looks at the word "united" and wonders if she will see her country truly united in her lifetime.  Once, she believed it had been achieved when President Barack Obama (Racism During Barack Obama Presidency - Washington Post) was elected, but that served to only stoke the division.

Celeste is grateful for the recent discoveries of loopholes and gaps in justice so those can be resolved.

She recognizes the journey of her soul is to trust and invites us to seek God in each other - all of us!

Rev. Celeste's poem is entitled "My Country Tis of Thee". 

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Rev. Celeste's guest is Rev. Jeffrey Kealoha Ryan, the Senior  Minister and Spiritual Director of the Riverside Center for Spiritual Living (riversidecsl.org), and a social justice advocate. He seeks to connect deeply, live consciously and live fiercely. He and his husband, Ed Ryan, met at a spiritual class in Las Vegas, NV.

Riverside CSL is diverse and wanted to be more socially active. Rev. Jeffrey's passion came from his grandmother, who taught him compassion. Observing the constant caretaking, compassion and being in service was part of his family and the way they nurtured. He's always been an advocate of making things better. He's always had a sense of wanting to give back.

Shortly after Rev. Jeffrey came to the Riverside CSL community, it was just after the children were separated from their parents at the border. The Riverside community put together a vigil for "Families Belong Together" (https://www.familiesbelongtogether.org/) with the Riverside Resistance Revival Chorus and other interfaith organizations. Out of that, he works with Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity. They go to Adelanto Detention Center (http://adelanto-immigration-inmate-info.com/), the state's largest detention center. They accompany asylum seekers to help secure freedom, helping to secure bonds and doing vigils. Riverside's Social Justice program expanded into their neighbors who are experiencing homelessness, foster care, and foster youth. The intersectionality of those things have common roots. They work with other non-profit organizations.

Rev. Celeste remembers there being a homeless issue there when she was an intern there 15 years ago. Riverside is a Housing First city. They focus on getting residents into permanent housing. Rev. Jeffrey was one of the original board members of the Riverside chapter of Family Promise who helps family experiencing homelessness. (https://www.facebook.com/FamilyPromiseRiverside/). They also work with Path of Life, the largest local shelter/agency that provides wraparound services (https://www.homelessshelterdirectory.org/cgi-bin/id/shelter.cgi?shelter=11816). Now they have the Office of Homeless Solutions working with Path of Life, with congregations and the three universities in the area that have social work programs. The social work interns are being imbedded in the communities and providing outreach from within the communities themselves.
Riverside CSL has a social work intern from one of the universities. The intern is helping to create programs, find solutions and provide services. Riverside CSL sits in a neighborhood and is also right next to Fairmont Park (the largest park in the city). The intern is modifying the Riverside CSL campus to make it safer for their neighbors as well as for the neighbors experiencing homelessness. 
They have been doing conscious conversations at Riverside CSL, a diverse and inclusive community. They work with Inland Congregations United for Change (https://icucpico.com/) and Time Done (https://timedone.org/) to support our brothers and sisters and siblings who have been impacted by the system and who have been released back into society, helping to support them with providing services, working on  expungement issues and working to change policy and at the state and local level as well. 

Rev. Celeste appreciates Rev. Jeffrey being an ally to her. Diversity and Inclusion was a part of his life growing up in Hawaii. He started his racial awareness work while teaching in a Japanese high school where there was overt and covert racism. He used the PBS documentary series, "Eyes on the Prize" with Japanese subtitles and using Jane Elliott's experiment giving them different colored arm bands to educate them on racial issues.


Rev. Celeste shares her poem entitled "We Belong to Each Other".

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Rev. Derrick B, Wells, Senior Minister of Christ Universal Temple ("CUT") (cutemple.org) is our guest today on Mystic Magic. He and Rev. Celeste cover many topics including Derrick's redemption story from his journey as a young urban male. His naivety at that time that led him into a life of crime left when he started to meet the consequences of his decisions. His transformation came from changing his thinking. He so thoroughly changed himself, realigned his energy and rewired himself to follow the pull to his next greatest self. 

During his time in the navy as a young man in his early 20's, he would lead Islamic prayers, and young couples would come to him for relationship advice and many shipmates came to him with their challenges. Derrick realized later in his life that his time in the military was laying the foundation for his ministry in counseling and coaching. Although leadership was natural for him, he didn't think he was gifted. He thought it was the way you were supposed to treat people.

Rev. Celeste and Rev. Derrick discussed how to guide young Black men during these times with the goal of getting home. He shared how his son challenged him. After the George Floyd murder, his son asked what if that happened to him. Rev. Derrick assured him they were covered by prayer. He forced Derrick to deal with the possibility of it happening to one of his friends. Rev. Derrick had to re-evaluate what he would do in terms of his own personal engagement of being part of the solution.

Derrick's book, "Guidelines for a Master" (https://www.amazon.com/Guidelines-Master-Dr-Derrick-Wells/dp/1544262302) pulls from "The Last Dragon" martial arts film (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089461/). Celeste and Derrick discussed centering, mindfulness and engaging in a major challenge. Jesus' centered awareness knows God is - regardless of the situation. We ground ourselves in Peace when entering into the storm. Derrick mentioned Gary Simmon's "I of the Storm" (https://www.amazon.com/Storm-Embracing-Conflict-Creating-Peace/dp/0871592703) book as they are studying it now at CUT.

They discussed police officers using mastery in policing in their own community versus succumbing to fear in other areas. Celeste has many police officers in her family. She calls it all part of the transformation that is leading to healing.

Rev. Derrick took the pulpit established by Rev. Johnnie Mae Colemon (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-johnnie-colemon-obituary-met-20141224-story.html). Rev. Derrick's commitment to unearth his authentic self helped him to meet the challenge of successfully navigating the pulpit of the icon Johnnie Colemon.

Find Derrick on Facebook on Wednesday evenings at 7 pm for "Temple Talks" (https://www.facebook.com/revderrickwells). He gave shouts out to his Mission Critical team members, Revs. Roderick Norton (https://www.empowerliving.org/roderick-n-norton-spiritual-director/) and Gaylon McDowell (https://www.chicagoideas.com/speakers/gaylon-mcdowell). Derrick also mentioned his upcoming e-book: "Six Keys to Design Your Life" that comes with an e-course to intentionally design your life. He does spiritual coaching. And his upcoming memoir is something to look forward to that is in the offing as well.

Rev. Celeste's poem is called Vision, Passion and Purpose.

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Rev. Celeste's guest is Vaugn Taylor, the founder and Chief Purpose Officer of The Core Guide Center (www.coreguidecenter.com). The Core Guide Center offers tools for anyone to use to learn how to pause, surrender, let go, heal and mature emotionally, and begin the journey of being present, all while learning self-care, one thought at a time. Vaugn has over 30 years of experience studying energy, spirituality, and recovery.

For years, Rev. Celeste has been receiving Daily Vibrations from Vaugn every morning affirming a conscious choice to be present with herself and move toward a greater wholeness. The Daily Vibrations are affirmations that invite us to go within. Vaugn started getting these messages back in 2012.

She realized that the world doesn't guide her. The Core Guide is within her center. We all want a solid structure, but rather than look for it outside of us, we can find it inside. Vaugn thinks the impetus is to learn how to pause, in a quiet way, so she can understand. There's a different language we all speak energetically and healing wise. When she hears her next tool, it takes her inside and there's a calmer solution. Celeste said when she can't find something, she looks inside. It's the last place she looks.

Vaugn realized Spirit looks forward but the mind looks back. She tries to catch herself when she is trying to bring yesterday forward. She began unlayering the generational influences and nourishing the collection of tools. 

When Celeste asked her how Ancient Wisdom has influenced her work, Vaugn replied, "It's all ancient wisdom". Vaugn realized that when she's heard enough, she becomes willing to change. Then, the ancient wisdom applies right to exactly where she is and what she's going through. If she spent a little less time in denial, pushing away the Truth and just make a little room, it lands on her.

Celeste thinks we don't push the Truth away consciously. We may think we have a better idea than God, for some reason. Vaugn says she began to realize the generational trends. She saw that her generation is doing it differently because we are forced to, and thank God for that. Everything we do gives the next generation an opportunity to get there sooner. Each generation can progressively support the next one.

Vaugn's references in her bio are to helping women, so Celeste asked if it is also applicable to men. Vaugn works with a lot of men, but she has met so many amazing, talented women who suffer from low self-esteem. Many women would like to be like them, and the very person they want to be is not enjoying her own life. Women are a strong essence of the new movement forward. A Course in Miracles says I teach someone and they teach me (acim.org). The men that have done her work have worked just as hard, if not harder - because men may be a little more vulnerable.

Celeste said the egoic mind gets us in trouble and it's the Wisdom - the Sofia Mind, that pulls us forward.

Vaugn didn't trust herself. Vaugn went to her emotion coach and realized the glory of growing and getting closer to her heart. Celeste asked what an emotions coach is. Vaugn finds value in therapy, but sometimes just needs help with spot emotions. When she began this, she wanted to be in the ballpark of having appropriate emotions. She sought to build her relationship with Truth.

She is the author of "Go Vertical, A Guide to Letting Go workbook" that provides a framework for individuals to Let Go, Love, and Expand their lives. In addition, her program “Level Up Self-Care,” offers a 4 step guide for women to discover their power, light, and Highest good, one thought at a time.

Where Vaugn once lived a life of chaos with moments of Peace, she now lives a life of Peace with moments of chaos.

Celeste's poem is called "Level Up".

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Rev. Celeste's guest is Sky Nelson-Isaacs, theoretical physician, composer, author, speaker, composer and musician (https://skynelson.com/). Sky's take on physics is a means to understand the world, the laws of nature and our own lives. His upcoming book is "Leap to Wholeness - How to World is Programmed to Help Us Grow, Heal, and Adapt" (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/659308/leap-to-wholeness-by-sky-nelson-isaacs/). Sky has observed us seeing what is dividible into smaller parts while missing the entirety of life and wholeness.

Sky yearns for us to be at peace by choosing the lives we want to live and deciding who we want to be. Sky thinks we need to be choosers rather than actors or doers. He sees the need for us integrating rather than separating from each other. 

Sky says we have an opportunity to sit with grief - either about our unfulfilled parts, injustice or death of a loved one. And we can feel the hole then use grief as a transformational tool so that when we see others suffering, we can step outside of our comfort zone.

Celeste spoke to the abundant number of lives lost during this time and job losses. Sky thinks we can be curious and courageous. He tends to look to the natural world for answers. We have problems, frustrations and sadness. But we can use a relational view - as quantum mechanics informs us. While Sky defined the questioner as the witness, Celeste queried further and Sky knew that she was speaking of the Authentic Source of Power.

Sky wants us to make a difference, be engaged and embrace the synergy. He seeks more empathy and less attachment to form. And he may grieve the loss of white men holding the power but is he wants us to integrate with people of color for the sake of equity. He could grieve from the shift of the United States losing its perceived leadership in economics and culture, but he would prefer to welcome something better.

They discussed loss and expansion and how we can move from mental perceptions to grief where images are shattered. Conversations can break down when people are constructing questions in order to get a certain answer. Another option is to have gratitude for each other and be open to each other's views. Vulnerability gives us an opportunity to look for what many of us are unwilling to reveal. Sky wants to know how are you hurt, not how defensive you can be. He wants to be present with all of your layers of personality and be with your core self. He is not interested in the layers of programming and protection.

Celeste inquired about Sky's Zen philosophy that he studied from a very young age. Sky sees the two (physics and Zen) as very similar. Both are abut the ephemeral nature of the world, that which is unspoken. We do a lot of probing of nature.

Music helps Sky feel whole. The piano is like a pen for him. It's familiar and he uses it to express. It brings a synchronicity to him, where he is in flow. Music is a practice for him that is healing and allows for an understanding of himself. 

Quantum mechanics helps us understand the nature of our relationships and interpret the world. Running experiments with possible answers, we are experimenters. 

Flow happens when we lose track of self-consciousness. This is a fuller self expression that brings empathy, helps us heal and align with our inner drive. We can believe in a world that we want. Rev. Celeste said what Sky calls flow, she calls oneness.

Look for Sky's new book, "Leap to Wholeness". Find pre-sales on Amazon, get the e-book or go to the book's website (above). Sky's other book "Living in Flow" is also available for sale (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/595348/living-in-flow-by-sky-nelson-isaacs/ or go to Uthrivehere.com to get the "Living In Flow" course.

Find Sky's music at SkyNelson.com

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