The Deep-Sea Podcast

Mythbusting AI with Tyler Greenfield


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In this episode…

Welcome back to the Deep-Sea Podcast, your punk take on all things deep sea! Join Alan in the Industrial Badlands of the Canary Islands as he cuts holes in ships, while Thom rubs elbows with New Zealand’s political elite.

In the news, get ready for updates on:

  • A meeting in Perth to discuss the Red List status of Deep-sea organisms. 
  • Deep-sea desalination techniques
  • Capturing Octopus movements for robot creation
  • Common Starfish with a juicy booty and one country’s massive love for divestreaming
  • How deep-diving beaked whales might be our closest helpful relatives
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    On the Discord, we’ve been busy with:

    • A new patron, welcome Hugoshibo!
    • Custom-milled keels for a bespoke handmade USV.
    • Critter photos from a ghost diving trip.
    • Debated the necessity of jars in legitimising a science career.
    • Baby Dumbo paper and adorable baby photos shared by Kat. 
    • Deep Sea Lino cut prints happening on canvas.
    • Ceramic hagfish sculptures and blown glass mermaids purses complete with kelp. 
    • NotOurDog made an appearance, and much talk about Oreo cafes and CAKE!
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      Guest Interview

      Tyler Greenfield is a paleontologist and cryptozoologist whose blog, Incertae Sedis reveals the truth behind some cryptozoological stories and paleontological mistakes. Since his appearance on episode 10, Tyler has finished his bachelor’s, written a good few papers, appeared on other podcasts (none as good as his debut of course) and is almost done with his masters and is about to start his PhD. He was even a credited consultant on the new (2025) Walking with Dinosaurs.

       

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      Reference list
      Discord Updates

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      News

      Te Papa Biodiversity Centre Press Release

       

      Deep-Sea Desalination Pulls Fresh Water from the Depths | Scientific American

       

      Deep-sea octopus footage could revolutionize flexible robot design - Earth.com

       

      Humans descend into huge deep-sea canyon for first time ever. What they find is astounding | Discover Wildlife

       

      Flourishing chemosynthetic life at the greatest depths of hadal trenches | Nature

       

      The deepest-diving whales could inspire new treatments for stroke and cancer | National Geographic

       

      Neurodegenerative Diseases: What Can Be Learned from Toothed Whales? - PMC

       

      The original article for our unfortunate ‘squid’ image 

      “Colossal Squid Filmed Alive for the First Time”: Juvenile Deep-Sea Monster Captured on Camera in South Atlantic Stuns Scientists - Sustainability Times

       

      How A Golden Nurse Shark Made History

       

      Interview

       Tyler’s master’s/doctorate research

      • https://usercontent.one/wp/pecescriollos.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/PI-04-Greenfield-2022-List-of-skeletal-material-from-megatooth-sharks.pdf
      • https://usercontent.one/wp/pecescriollos.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/PI-06-Shimada-Greenfield-2022-Responses-to-Skeletal-material-from-megatooth-sharks.pdf
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        Tyler’s work on Onchopristis and other sawskates

         Blogposts:

        • https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2020/05/18/onchopristis-is-a-sawskate-not-a-sawfish/
        • https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/01/12/updates-on-sawskates/
        • https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/04/12/fact-checking-planet-dinosaurs-onchopristis/
        • https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/11/25/the-earliest-discovery-of-a-sawskate/
        • Other papers by Tyler:

          • https://www.mapress.com/bn/article/view/bionomina.22.1.3 
          • https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356911837_Sawskates_Rajiformes_Sclerorhynchoidei_and_the_concept_of_pristification 
          • https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357752727_Sawskates_Rajiformes_Sclerorhynchoidei_and_the_concept_of_pristification 
          • https://mapress.com/mz/article/view/mesozoic.1.2.3 
          • https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1464343X25000081
          •   Some of Tyler’s work on megalodon in cryptozoology

            • https://www.journalofscientificexploration.org/index.php/jse/article/view/3041
            • https://zenodo.org/records/7903372
            • https://zenodo.org/records/13285787
            • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2CZMfyHQAM&t=528s
            • https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385383987_The_history_of_Otodus_megalodon_in_cryptozoology
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              Further Reading

              Onchopristis paper by Eduardo Villalobos-Segura et al

               

              The BBC posted a clip of Spinosaurus hunting Onchopristis from "Walking with Dinosaurs" on YouTube, which anyone should be able to watch. The entire episode should be available for free on the BBC website for anyone in the UK and on the PBS website for anyone in the USA.

              • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBPlZNfemmM
              • https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002csns/walking-with-dinosaurs-series-1-2-the-river-dragon
              • https://www.pbs.org/video/the-river-dragon-siyrjh/
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                AI coelacanth hoax

                https://sharonahill.com/fake-california-coelacanth/

                 

                Three-fingered alien mummies

                Paleontologist Rodolfo Salas-Gismondi’s skeptical analysis of the mummies.

                 

                Former paleontologist Clifford Miles’ website and ‘paper.’ 

                • https://web.archive.org/web/20231216230358/https://www.themilespaper.com/
                • https://web.archive.org/web/20231223232419/https://www.themilespaper.com/_files/ugd/5a322e_bf4471a1eba54eae9290f61265f6e25c.pdf
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                  YouTuber History with Kayleigh made a skeptical video about Miles’ work, which would be more savory to link.

                  Nazca Mummies Are A New ALIEN Species?!

                   

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