Phil speaks with Nadine Lalich, alien abductee, researcher, and author, who recounts a chilling camping trip in Sedona. It was late on the evening of June 15, 1991, when Nadine and her friend, Pamela, pulled into the empty lot of Banjo Bill Park in Sedona, Arizona. After the long drive from California, they planned to sleep in the van and then head into town the next day.

Sometime after midnight, Nadine awoke to the sound of people outside walking around the vehicle. Alarmed, she quickly sat up, and a moment later, the rear door of the vehicle opened lighting up the interior. Reaching toward her was a thin grey arm and a hand with only three fingers! 

The terrifying experience would be the first of many to come, but it would take 13 more years before she would find the courage to speak about it.

Nadine also talks about her latest book, 'Evolution: Coming to Terms with the ET Presence'.

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