We made it to 100 episodes and we couldn't think of a better way to celebrate. Sally's heart was beating the whole time 'cause she's that much of a fangirl. Our guest is the one and only Dr Sujay Kansagra, known to so many of you as That Sleep Doc. He's a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University, where he directs the child neurology sleep medicine program. Sally DM'd him on the seventh of December 2024, before Nap Trapped even existed. It was left on unread. A hundred episodes later, here we are. In part one we rip the band aid and ask what sleep training actually is, whether sleep associations are real and how you tell a sleep association from a baby seeking connection. Sujay walks us through the learned helplessness research, attachment, night feeds and breastfeeding, parent guilt and why a well rested parent is a safer driver. He also tells us why he invented what he calls the most expensive crib mattress in the world and still says sleep training is safe and effective. Then we get into the hard bit: the crying. How Sujay coaches families through it, the two methods he reaches for and why even he found sleep training his own kids hard. Sally shares the early rising that finally shifted once she sent her husband to the gym. Bec's famous line gets a run too. Hold steady. If you've been fear mongered out of getting help, this one's for you. Subscribe to Nap Trapped wherever you listen and find every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn:- Why there's no formal definition of sleep training and how Sujay defines it- How sleep cycles and normal night wakings bring sleep associations into play- How to tell if a sleep association is actually a problem for your household- What the 1960s learned helplessness experiments do and don't tell us about sleep trained babies- What the research says about sleep training and attachment- Why night feeds and breastfeeding can sit alongside sleep training- The two types of crying and how Sujay matches a method to a family's tolerance- Why having someone in your corner through the execution makes such a difference Chapters:00:00 Happy 100th, Dr. Sujay05:01 So, What Is Sleep Training?19:31 Busting the Sleep Training Myths37:26 Coaching Families Through Crying45:45 Part Two Next Week ABOUT:We're Sally Woods from The Sleep Concierge and Bec Maher from The Sleep Centre. Nap Trapped is our evidence-based baby sleep podcast for tired parents who want real answers without the fear mongering. Dr Sujay Kansagra is a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University and the creator of Lullabee. You'll find him on social media as That Sleep Doc. Links:Sally, The Sleep Concierge: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/Bec, The Sleep Centre: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/Dr Sujay Kansagra, That Sleep Doc: https://www.instagram.com/thatsleepdoc/That Sleep Doc on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatsleepdocThat Sleep Doc on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsleepdocAll of That Sleep Doc's links: https://linktr.ee/thatsleepdocCamp Snooze intakes: joinsnooze.comNap Trapped: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

We made it to 100 episodes and we couldn't think of a better way to celebrate. Sally's heart was beating the whole time 'cause she's that much of a fangirl. Our guest is the one and only Dr Sujay Kansagra, known to so many of you as That Sleep Doc. He's a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University, where he directs the child neurology sleep medicine program. Sally DM'd him on the seventh of December 2024, before Nap Trapped even existed. It was left on unread. A hundred episodes later, here we are. In part one we rip the band aid and ask what sleep training actually is, whether sleep associations are real and how you tell a sleep association from a baby seeking connection. Sujay walks us through the learned helplessness research, attachment, night feeds and breastfeeding, parent guilt and why a well rested parent is a safer driver. He also tells us why he invented what he calls the most expensive crib mattress in the world and still says sleep training is safe and effective. Then we get into the hard bit: the crying. How Sujay coaches families through it, the two methods he reaches for and why even he found sleep training his own kids hard. Sally shares the early rising that finally shifted once she sent her husband to the gym. Bec's famous line gets a run too. Hold steady. If you've been fear mongered out of getting help, this one's for you. Subscribe to Nap Trapped wherever you listen and find every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn: - Why there's no formal definition of sleep training and how Sujay defines it - How sleep cycles and normal night wakings bring sleep associations into play - How to tell if a sleep association is actually a problem for your household - What the 1960s learned helplessness experiments do and don't tell us about sleep trained babies - What the research says about sleep training and attachment - Why night feeds and breastfeeding can sit alongside sleep training - The two types of crying and how Sujay matches a method to a family's tolerance - Why having someone in your corner through the execution makes such a difference Chapters: 00:00 Happy 100th, Dr. Sujay 05:01 So, What Is Sleep Training? 19:31 Busting the Sleep Training Myths 37:26 Coaching Families Through Crying 45:45 Part Two Next Week ABOUT: We're Sally Woods from The Sleep Concierge and Bec Maher from The Sleep Centre. Nap Trapped is our evidence-based baby sleep podcast for tired parents who want real answers without the fear mongering. Dr Sujay Kansagra is a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University and the creator of Lullabee. You'll find him on social media as That Sleep Doc. Links: Sally, The Sleep Concierge: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec, The Sleep Centre: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Dr Sujay Kansagra, That Sleep Doc: https://www.instagram.com/thatsleepdoc/ That Sleep Doc on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatsleepdoc That Sleep Doc on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsleepdoc All of That Sleep Doc's links: https://linktr.ee/thatsleepdoc Camp Snooze intakes: joinsnooze.com Nap Trapped: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

What Is Sleep Training, Really? With That Sleep Doc (Part 1)

We're back in the Sleep Detectives hot seat answering your real baby sleep questions — bottles, naps, toddler boundaries, split nights, daycare schedules and a very important Fiji trip. Subscribe and never miss an episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn:- When to drop the morning and before-lunch bottles (the exact ages)- How to protect your toddler's sleep when a new baby arrives — and what NOT to change- The transitional schedule explained: why it doesn't have to look textbook- Early rising vs. actually early rising — and why we almost never make a nap drop off an early rise- Split nights: what they actually are (and what's just a resettle going nowhere)- How to audit a 1am wake with a sleep trained 13 month old- The pilot analogy from Dr Becky that reframes holding a boundary with a toddler- Why six months is prime time for sleep shaping- Daycare schedules with fixed bottle and nap times — how to make it work- Fiji with a five month old: do you stay on Sydney time or just get on Fiji time? Chapters:00:00 – Welcome to Sleep Detectives00:33 – Dropping bottles: before-lunch and morning bottle ages02:00 – Protecting toddler sleep when a new baby arrives06:40 – 12 month old on transitional schedule: one and a half hour afternoon nap11:22 – 18 month old on one nap: should I wake at two if she'll sleep till three?12:31 – 14 month old: early waking and 20 minutes to self-settle — time for one nap?17:18 – 1am wake with a sleep trained 13 month old — split night or resettle?25:50 – Dr Becky's pilot analogy and holding boundaries with toddlers31:07 – Six month old: when to start waking from naps to get on a schedule34:20 – Eight month old in daycare five days a week: adapting nap and feeding advice39:45 – Five month old trip to Fiji: Sydney time or Fiji time?41:02 – Wrap up ABOUT NAP TRAPPED:Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two sleep consultants, two mothers, one podcast dedicated to evidence-based baby and toddler sleep support in plain language. No empty promises, no guilt, just real answers for tired parents. Links:Instagram Sally: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/Instagram Bec: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/Website: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

We're back in the Sleep Detectives hot seat answering your real baby sleep questions — bottles, naps, toddler boundaries, split nights, daycare schedules and a very important Fiji trip. Subscribe and never miss an episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn: - When to drop the morning and before-lunch bottles (the exact ages) - How to protect your toddler's sleep when a new baby arrives — and what NOT to change - The transitional schedule explained: why it doesn't have to look textbook - Early rising vs. actually early rising — and why we almost never make a nap drop off an early rise - Split nights: what they actually are (and what's just a resettle going nowhere) - How to audit a 1am wake with a sleep trained 13 month old - The pilot analogy from Dr Becky that reframes holding a boundary with a toddler - Why six months is prime time for sleep shaping - Daycare schedules with fixed bottle and nap times — how to make it work - Fiji with a five month old: do you stay on Sydney time or just get on Fiji time? Chapters: 00:00 – Welcome to Sleep Detectives 00:33 – Dropping bottles: before-lunch and morning bottle ages 02:00 – Protecting toddler sleep when a new baby arrives 06:40 – 12 month old on transitional schedule: one and a half hour afternoon nap 11:22 – 18 month old on one nap: should I wake at two if she'll sleep till three? 12:31 – 14 month old: early waking and 20 minutes to self-settle — time for one nap? 17:18 – 1am wake with a sleep trained 13 month old — split night or resettle? 25:50 – Dr Becky's pilot analogy and holding boundaries with toddlers 31:07 – Six month old: when to start waking from naps to get on a schedule 34:20 – Eight month old in daycare five days a week: adapting nap and feeding advice 39:45 – Five month old trip to Fiji: Sydney time or Fiji time? 41:02 – Wrap up ABOUT NAP TRAPPED: Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two sleep consultants, two mothers, one podcast dedicated to evidence-based baby and toddler sleep support in plain language. No empty promises, no guilt, just real answers for tired parents. Links: Instagram Sally: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Instagram Bec: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Website: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Sleep Detectives: Your Baby Sleep Q’s Answered - Ep 99

Your toddler's been a great sleeper for months. Then one night they start demanding more books, more cuddles, more everything. You're trapped in the room for two hours wondering what happened to your independent sleeper. This is the 18 month sleep regression, and it's less about sleep and more about boundaries.Sally and Bec break down why this regression happens right when toddlers learn to use words to influence their world. They explain why giving in to one more book turns into 17 books by night three, how to hold clear limits without negotiations, and why it can still take two hours even when you're doing everything right. Plus the strategies that work throughout the day to fill their cup so you can hold firm at bedtime.What You'll Learn:• Why the 18 month regression is about boundary testing, not self-settling• How language development triggers bedtime battles• The exact bedtime routine strategy: verbal cues for last book, last cuddle, last kiss• Why bore-to-reassure works better than negotiations• Realistic timeline: 2-6 weeks regardless of your approach• What happens when you try to max them out with long wake windows (spoiler: it backfires)• Micro-moments of connection and choice throughout the day• How to avoid creating new sleep associations while navigating the regressionChapters:00:00 Intro and scheduling queen banter04:22 What is the 18 month sleep regression08:19 Setting clear verbal boundaries at bedtime11:47 Realistic expectations: how long it actually takes15:44 Why connection matters but boundaries hold21:01 This isn't sleep training, it's limit setting26:41 What NOT to do: extending wake windows30:21 Filling their cup throughout the day34:00 Wrap up and encouragement 🎙️ ABOUT NAP TRAPPEDSally Woods and Bec Maher are baby sleep consultants who believe exhausted parents deserve real answers, not judgment. Each episode of Nap Trapped breaks down one sleep challenge with evidence-based advice and a healthy dose of humor. Links📩 Get updates + exclusive tools: Subscribe www.naptrappedpodcast.com 📸 Follow Sally & Bec on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ 🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts podscan_iUuGjmVySs0SbIO2kTBujJmNhawXVV6d

Your toddler's been a great sleeper for months. Then one night they start demanding more books, more cuddles, more everything. You're trapped in the room for two hours wondering what happened to your independent sleeper. This is the 18 month sleep regression, and it's less about sleep and more about boundaries. Sally and Bec break down why this regression happens right when toddlers learn to use words to influence their world. They explain why giving in to one more book turns into 17 books by night three, how to hold clear limits without negotiations, and why it can still take two hours even when you're doing everything right. Plus the strategies that work throughout the day to fill their cup so you can hold firm at bedtime. What You'll Learn: • Why the 18 month regression is about boundary testing, not self-settling • How language development triggers bedtime battles • The exact bedtime routine strategy: verbal cues for last book, last cuddle, last kiss • Why bore-to-reassure works better than negotiations • Realistic timeline: 2-6 weeks regardless of your approach • What happens when you try to max them out with long wake windows (spoiler: it backfires) • Micro-moments of connection and choice throughout the day • How to avoid creating new sleep associations while navigating the regression Chapters: 00:00 Intro and scheduling queen banter 04:22 What is the 18 month sleep regression 08:19 Setting clear verbal boundaries at bedtime 11:47 Realistic expectations: how long it actually takes 15:44 Why connection matters but boundaries hold 21:01 This isn't sleep training, it's limit setting 26:41 What NOT to do: extending wake windows 30:21 Filling their cup throughout the day 34:00 Wrap up and encouragement 🎙️ ABOUT NAP TRAPPED Sally Woods and Bec Maher are baby sleep consultants who believe exhausted parents deserve real answers, not judgment. Each episode of Nap Trapped breaks down one sleep challenge with evidence-based advice and a healthy dose of humor. Links 📩 Get updates + exclusive tools: Subscribe www.naptrappedpodcast.com 📸 Follow Sally & Bec on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ 🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts podscan_iUuGjmVySs0SbIO2kTBujJmNhawXVV6d

Your toddler's been a great sleeper for months. Then one night they start demanding more books, more cuddles, more everything. You're trapped in the room for two hours wondering what happened to your independent sleeper. This is the 18 month sleep regression, and it's less about sleep and more about boundaries.Sally and Bec break down why this regression happens right when toddlers learn to use words to influence their world. They explain why giving in to one more book turns into 17 books by night three, how to hold clear limits without negotiations, and why it can still take two hours even when you're doing everything right. Plus the strategies that work throughout the day to fill their cup so you can hold firm at bedtime.What You'll Learn:• Why the 18 month regression is about boundary testing, not self-settling• How language development triggers bedtime battles• The exact bedtime routine strategy: verbal cues for last book, last cuddle, last kiss• Why bore-to-reassure works better than negotiations• Realistic timeline: 2-6 weeks regardless of your approach• What happens when you try to max them out with long wake windows (spoiler: it backfires)• Micro-moments of connection and choice throughout the day• How to avoid creating new sleep associations while navigating the regressionChapters:00:00 Intro and scheduling queen banter04:22 What is the 18 month sleep regression08:19 Setting clear verbal boundaries at bedtime11:47 Realistic expectations: how long it actually takes15:44 Why connection matters but boundaries hold21:01 This isn't sleep training, it's limit setting26:41 What NOT to do: extending wake windows30:21 Filling their cup throughout the day34:00 Wrap up and encouragement 🎙️ ABOUT NAP TRAPPEDSally Woods and Bec Maher are baby sleep consultants who believe exhausted parents deserve real answers, not judgment. Each episode of Nap Trapped breaks down one sleep challenge with evidence-based advice and a healthy dose of humor. Links📩 Get updates + exclusive tools: Subscribe www.naptrappedpodcast.com 📸 Follow Sally &amp; Bec on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ 🎧 Listen on Spotify &amp; Apple Podcasts podscan_iUuGjmVySs0SbIO2kTBujJmNhawXVV6d

18 Month Sleep Regression: Boundary Testing & How to Handle It

Is your 6-8 month old ready to drop the third nap? Sally and Bec tackle one of the most common sleep challenges: when (and how) to navigate the third nap transition. Through a real case study of early rising gone wrong, they explain why keeping that third nap a little longer - even if it means breaking some "rules" - can be your secret weapon against overtiredness. Learn practical strategies for adjusting nap times, signs your baby is truly ready to transition, and why the third nap is your insurance policy for better sleep. Whether you're considering dropping a nap or dealing with early waking, this episode is packed with evidence-based solutions to help your baby sleep better. Follow Sally & Bec on socials at:https://www.tiktok.com/@thesleepconciergehttps://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Learn more about getting better sleep at:https://thesleepcentre.com.au/https://www.sleepconcierge.com.au/

Is your 6-8 month old ready to drop the third nap? Sally and Bec tackle one of the most common sleep challenges: when (and how) to navigate the third nap transition. Through a real case study of early rising gone wrong, they explain why keeping that third nap a little longer - even if it means breaking some "rules" - can be your secret weapon against overtiredness. Learn practical strategies for adjusting nap times, signs your baby is truly ready to transition, and why the third nap is your insurance policy for better sleep. Whether you're considering dropping a nap or dealing with early waking, this episode is packed with evidence-based solutions to help your baby sleep better. Follow Sally & Bec on socials at: https://www.tiktok.com/@thesleepconcierge https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Learn more about getting better sleep at: https://thesleepcentre.com.au/ https://www.sleepconcierge.com.au/

Is your 6-8 month old ready to drop the third nap? Sally and Bec tackle one of the most common sleep challenges: when (and how) to navigate the third nap transition. Through a real case study of early rising gone wrong, they explain why keeping that third nap a little longer - even if it means breaking some "rules" - can be your secret weapon against overtiredness. Learn practical strategies for adjusting nap times, signs your baby is truly ready to transition, and why the third nap is your insurance policy for better sleep. Whether you're considering dropping a nap or dealing with early waking, this episode is packed with evidence-based solutions to help your baby sleep better. Follow Sally &amp; Bec on socials at:https://www.tiktok.com/@thesleepconciergehttps://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Learn more about getting better sleep at:https://thesleepcentre.com.au/https://www.sleepconcierge.com.au/

Don't Drop That Nap! Why Your Third Nap is Your Secret Weapon

Struggling with baby sleep? You’re not alone. Welcome to Nap Trapped, the podcast that transforms sleepless nights into manageable, evidence-based solutions. Hosted by sleep consultants Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre), this series tackles everything from nap transitions to early rising and gentle sleep strategies—without judgment.Each episode dives deep into real case studies, expert insights, and actionable tips to help you and your baby get better sleep. Whether you’re a new parent or dealing with toddler sleep regressions, Nap Trapped is here to support you.🔔 New episodes weekly! Subscribe and start your journey to better sleep. 📩 Subscribe to The Nap Trapped Podcast Newsletter for episode updates, exclusive content, and show notes:[<a href="">https://naptrapped.beehiiv.com/</a>] 📸 Follow Sally & Bec for daily sleep tips: Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge): <a href="">https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/</a> Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre): <a href="">https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/</a> #BabySleep #NapTrappedPodcast #ParentingTips #SleepTraining #NewbornSleep #ToddlerSleep #SleepConsultant #BabyNaps

Struggling with baby sleep? You’re not alone. Welcome to Nap Trapped, the podcast that transforms sleepless nights into manageable, evidence-based solutions. Hosted by sleep consultants Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre), this series tackles everything from nap transitions to early rising and gentle sleep strategies—without judgment. Each episode dives deep into real case studies, expert insights, and actionable tips to help you and your baby get better sleep. Whether you’re a new parent or dealing with toddler sleep regressions, Nap Trapped is here to support you. 🔔 New episodes weekly! Subscribe and start your journey to better sleep. 📩 Subscribe to The Nap Trapped Podcast Newsletter for episode updates, exclusive content, and show notes:[https://naptrapped.beehiiv.com/] 📸 Follow Sally & Bec for daily sleep tips: Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge): https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre): https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ #BabySleep #NapTrappedPodcast #ParentingTips #SleepTraining #NewbornSleep #ToddlerSleep #SleepConsultant #BabyNaps

Struggling with baby sleep? You’re not alone. Welcome to&nbsp;Nap Trapped, the podcast that transforms sleepless nights into&nbsp;manageable, evidence-based solutions. Hosted by&nbsp;sleep consultants Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre), this series tackles everything from&nbsp;nap transitions&nbsp;to&nbsp;early rising&nbsp;and&nbsp;gentle sleep strategies—without judgment.Each episode dives deep into real case studies, expert insights, and&nbsp;actionable tips&nbsp;to help you and your baby get better sleep. Whether you’re a new parent or dealing with toddler sleep regressions,&nbsp;Nap Trapped&nbsp;is here to support you.🔔&nbsp;New episodes weekly! Subscribe and start your journey to better sleep. 📩&nbsp;Subscribe to The Nap Trapped Podcast Newsletter for episode updates, exclusive content, and show notes:[<a href="" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://naptrapped.beehiiv.com/</a>] 📸&nbsp;Follow Sally &amp; Bec for daily sleep tips: Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge):&nbsp;<a href="" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/</a> Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre):&nbsp;<a href="" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/</a> #BabySleep #NapTrappedPodcast #ParentingTips #SleepTraining #NewbornSleep #ToddlerSleep #SleepConsultant #BabyNaps

Welcome to Nap Trapped! Your Go-To Baby Sleep Podcast

Nap Trapped, hosted by expert sleep consultants Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre), transforms baby sleep challenges into practical solutions. Whether you're currently trapped under a napping baby or seeking better sleep, each episode combines evidence-based advice with real parenting experience. No judgment, just expert insights with a side of solidarity - because understanding the 'why' behind sleep behaviors is the key to confident parenting. We're here to help sleep make sense from nap transitions to early rising.

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