Narrative Podcast

Steve Gohl and I, Tim Croll, sat down to talk about the Narratives that have been shared so far. It's funny how we craft these false stories in our heads as truth.  Somewhere along the way, our guests have found holes in those narratives and are now forming new narratives that actually positively serve them. What false narratives have you created?

We discussed the trends, we have noticed, in how these narratives were formed. We agreed there are three common ways we form narratives in our formative years. We form them through something someone said to us, good or bad, we form them by watching our parents and thinking our lives will be similar, and by traumatic events or big events.

And we talked about how these false narratives act as self-sabotage. If you think you don't deserve to be thin of course you will keep eating the Oreos! If you don't think you deserve love then you may never see your soul mate standing right in front of you! You have to change the narrative to be in control. Keep sharing your stories with us as we keep exploring other's narratives, because stories matter!

To Connect with Tim Croll or Steve Gohl: www.narrative.live

It was great growing up so close to Grandma and Grandpa. They were such a great example of a loving relationship. It was also a place a kid like Mark Copeland could score a sweet treat and escape to when things were tough at home. Mark spent a lot of time with his grandpa and learned a lot. He explored nature and asked Grandpa lots of questions. But then Grandpa made him find the answers. Mark learned to be curious and look for unique experiences.

Before Mark headed to high school he and his grandfather did a sabbatical in Alaska! Yeah, with glaciers and a tent! He also knew his grandfather expected him to go to college. But Mark was wrapped up in living for today. He didn’t have money or desire to attend college. Among many other things he took away from his time with his grandfather was something he said “You will become the person you become from the people you meet and the books you read.” And Mark took some time to explore who is Mark?

Today though, he is crafting a different narrative. He wants to impact others through his actions. He is more interested in satisfaction of life rather than success, or the world’s definition of success anyway. His wife, children, grandchildren, and staff know they can come to him. He has set the example.

To Connect with Mark Copeland:

[email protected] or [email protected]

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It’s funny how our children desire relationships but due to our personalities or our circumstances, sometimes the way we show love is through providing for them. Dave Myers's dad worked hard to provide for his family, but Dave really wanted more from his relationship with his dad. So he ended up writing a narrative to fill in the gaps in his heart with applaudable acts.

Dave’s ego grew. The more praise he got the more he strived to be the best. One day his girlfriend pointed out that they were going in different directions. She desired a strong Christian life and it wasn’t Dave’s priority. Sometimes it’s big life events like that that make you see a little more clearly.

Once Dave had kids he shifted all the focus from him being the best to his kids. And he intentionally was part of their life. This crossed into his work as a teacher and coach. He strives to make a positive impact on their lives. Listen to hear how Dave is now crafting his story!

To Connect with Dave Myers: email: [email protected]

website: www.davemyersbooks.com click on “contact me” to chat or check out his books: Swim Upstream & Breaking Camp

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With a strong Military male presence in his father, Fred Young too wanted to be a strong male as a pilot.  But once he got to college his ambition died a little and grades got the better of him.  He fell into broadcasting and realized he had a talent for it.  He was collecting accolades but still felt something missing.  

One day in Missouri, it all changed when he was invited by his wife to church.  On top of that, she was now expecting.  The focus shifted from how great am I to the child on the way.  He realized God was not mad at him and wanted to shoulder Fred's burdens.  

His boss and Fred realized the person he was becoming no longer served the station he had been at.  But God has a plan and opportunity came seeking Fred to still do radio but at a Christian station. Fred now gets to encourage others daily and live a new narrative crafted by God!

To Connect with Fred Young: on social @fredlyradio or by email [email protected]

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To hear her speak, you will not agree with her false narrative as a small child. She believed she had nothing to say because she was of no significance and she felt her voice was too deep. She believed this for a while and it made it difficult to cultivate friendships. 

But when you get a new pair of shoes and decide to tackle the hill in your neighborhood, life changes.  Karen ran up that hill and her lungs filled with air, the blood ran faster in her veins, and she felt her heart pumping!  She felt alive!  She wondered how could she make others feel alive too? 

She has completely changed her life with running and caring for others. Listen to the full episode to hear how and attend her free live event coming up.

Connect with Karen Loaiza-Wulff: FB: @KarenLoaiza-Wulff or IG:@klowulff

To Connect with Tim Croll or Steve Gohl: www.narrative.live

As children, we aren't given road maps for this thing called life. As Robert (Bob) Saul was growing up he was bullied, didn't "fit in", and often had stomach issues.  He was lucky enough to have a childhood psychologist see him and help him figure a few things out.  That Dr. had such an impact on Bob that he wanted to go into medicine.  In his junior year of college is when he felt a strong pull to pediatrics. He felt this was the space he could have the greatest impact.  He finally knew his path.

Bob learned a lot from his patients.  Bob had experienced a lot in his personal life with a disabled daughter and foster children he and his wife had cared for. In 93' he was heard a speaker share "I am the problem. I am the solution. I am the resource." Yes, Bob had found his identity in the pediatric medical world but now in his community. He has established 5 steps to community Improvement that he explained, they are 

• Learn to be the best parent you can be

With these principles in mind, he has written multiple books. Writing for Bob started with letters to the community, actually intended for himself. He starts his days excited for work. He still loves what he does and encourages us all to forgive each other - continue to evolve in your forgiveness journey.

Connect with Dr. Robert (Bob) Saul: [email protected]

Check out Dr. Robert Saul's Books: MyChildrensChildren.com

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When you grow up as the baby of 6 kids in your family you have a lot of people to watch as you are growing up and forming your values. Evan Van Dyke was doted on by his family and told he was going to grow up and be successful.  So naturally Evan thought he needed to do something that his family would be impressed with, enough to sing his praises.  Evan equated success with money. His mom was the epitome of positivity.  Evan wasn't sure it was ok to be negative.  

There came a time when Evan started to question the need for success, money, praise, and his Mormon upbringing. Once he did his due diligence researching Mormonism, he decided it wasn't the life for him anymore. But when you take your name out of the Book of Mormon you can expect to lose those that were once close to you. You lose their praise too.  When that happened Evan had to decide that he was enough.  He decided he could have negative emotions but to always practice gratitude. He is still very positive but admits life has it's problems. Through his gratitude, he's learned to shift his thinking about solving problems. 

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"You're gonna be defeated." Maybe this wasn't a struggle for Kelley Tyan when she was younger but it really played a role in her adult life. In her younger years, Kelley watched her mom struggle with rheumatoid arthritis.  She saw her mom rely on her faith, push through pain, and show up.  Kelly knew she could too. 

But as she got older and bad things happened and she started playing the comparison game, that negative voice in her head got louder and louder.  She's a breast cancer survivor, her daughter has been in two very serious accidents, and more. Then she lost her mom.  That was her person.  They were very close and alot of value was held in their relationship.

 Now Kelley had to face this world on her own.  But that ended up being ok.  Kelley bets on herself these days!  She relies on her faith and trusts what God says about her. She's addicted to the climb (the journey to being your own courageous leader. ) There are two voices in your head, which one will you let speak the loudest?

Kelly's Mantra: "I will not be defeated by my negative inner voice."

Connect with Kelly Tyan: LinkedIn or @KelleyTyan on Instagram

To Connect with Tim Croll or Steve Gohl: www.narrative.live

When you grow up around successful people and your friends are highly successful, you see their glamorous lifestyle.  You start to think things matter. The car. The house. The trips. The impact. That's what Ian Garlic used to think, in order to have great impact you have to have great wealth!

Until one day he realized, he'd rather enjoy the journey than worry about the ultimate conquest which wouldn't result in satisfaction.  He'd seen his parents lose everything and pick themselves back up. This example about mindset.  When things get hard you have to push through.  He learned too that if he did it once he could do it again.  This mindset has served him well. He identified two types of successful people. The people that are in it for the money and the people that are in it for the impact.  Success depends on your definition. Listen to hear Ian's definition and how he impacts others. 

To Connect with Ian Garlic: Ian Garlic on LinkedIn or @Ian.Garlic on Instagram

Ian's Book: Video Testimonials: How to Land the Big Fish 

Book referrals:  Man’s Search for Meaning by Vickor Frankl

How to Be Like Walt by Pat Williams

To Connect with Tim Croll or Steve Gohl: www.narrative.live

Somehow Dr. Sara Whedon established a picture of perfection that she strived for daily. Around age 16 she knew she could not keep up this perfect life. In her 20’s, she questioned “When did I start thinking ‘I should be ___ by now’”? But she couldn’t figure out how to let it go of the norms she believed and what a perfect life looked like. But when her mom was diagnosed with cancer she had to fall into being present and problem solving and that did not reflect perfection.

That opened a whole new chapter of life where she decided she did have value! She thought to herself, “Clearly, there are things I don’t know. I want to move forward. And the only way to move forward is to do something different.” She got help because she knew someone who had value deserved help. Now she helps others do the same. She lets them know you can do hard things when you are scared, suffering, don’t know the outcome, and even when you don’t want to.

To Connect with Sara Whedon: www.drsarawhedon.com or [email protected]

To Connect with Tim Croll or Steve Gohl: www.narrative.live