In this special episode, Megan Strand joins Jill Creighton, host of the SA: Voices From the Field Podcast, and two former CBO Speaks guests, Nicole Trufant and Gerald Hector, to look at how student affairs officers and business officers can work together towards mutual success. The discussion ranges from seeing business officers as human to how student affairs and business office professionals can help each other promote justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion in higher education. They talk about the importance of transparency, open communication, and building relationships with people at all levels to improve collaboration across all departments. It's a great conversation between these four people and a great way to spend time with the NASPA team.