Director Natalie Erika James discusses the journey from short films to making her debut feature with Relic, how Jake Gyllenhaal and the Russo brothers' production companies got involved, what she learned as a director's attachment on Leigh Whannell's Upgrade, and broader directing advice. *Language warning*

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